WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.850 --> 00:00:06.000 WLWV Board Room: Alright i'm calling this meeting to order and this done this. 2 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:15.870 WLWV Board Room: Week, please call roll Sammy chassis King here Christie Thompson pair Liz Taylor here Kevin air Thank you. 3 00:00:17.160 --> 00:00:22.500 WLWV Board Room: All right, great, thank you to our guests, for being here this evening and. 4 00:00:25.230 --> 00:00:42.360 WLWV Board Room: I will just go ahead and introduce the topic and then hand the floor over to director Taylor for him to speak a little bit, if you want to say anything about the topic as well, and then we'll move through our guests here and hear from you, and then we can talk some. 5 00:00:44.070 --> 00:00:55.320 WLWV Board Room: Discussion so the topic this evening is to discuss Community benefits agreements and what i'm sending out to you right now. 6 00:01:01.050 --> 00:01:05.550 WLWV Board Room: Forgive me just a little scattered as we start this. 7 00:01:07.410 --> 00:01:07.830 WLWV Board Room: Excellent. 8 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:22.080 WLWV Board Room: yeah so those of you who are attending remotely can't see what I just ended up, and I can just let you know i'll speak to each of the things so you'll have a sense of what i'm distributing. 9 00:01:23.160 --> 00:01:38.520 WLWV Board Room: So the purpose of the meeting is to explore the topic of Community benefits agreements, and this is based off of a few different things, most pertinent to this group is what I just handed out to you. 10 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:54.630 WLWV Board Room: Which is the memo that attach the policy that we updated and, at the end of 2021 so it's the memo that came from remote remote Douglas to the board and kind of introduced the. 11 00:01:55.650 --> 00:02:03.330 WLWV Board Room: It introduces the topic of Community benefits agreement, and this was the memo that we read when we cast policy tj see so I just. 12 00:02:04.830 --> 00:02:07.500 WLWV Board Room: ended out that memo and policy is like. 13 00:02:09.030 --> 00:02:10.050 WLWV Board Room: A little bit of history. 14 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:24.180 WLWV Board Room: The conversations about this topic actually go deep back pretty far and they started amongst this board years ago, often frames and questions around. 15 00:02:25.200 --> 00:02:46.140 WLWV Board Room: Whether or not certain contractors were available locally or if we needed to hire the one from out of state or whether or not there was a possibility of doing w ESP certifications on contracts and so those questions have been kind of kicked around on the board for some years, and. 16 00:02:47.220 --> 00:02:53.670 WLWV Board Room: Then, when we pass this policy, DJ see as you can see, here it opened up. 17 00:02:55.440 --> 00:03:01.260 WLWV Board Room: You know, an opportunity for the board if the board chooses through a resolution to. 18 00:03:02.340 --> 00:03:14.490 WLWV Board Room: You know designate a Community benefits agreement and and what you'll see there is that on those first four bullet points and remote I don't know that I made enough copies. 19 00:03:16.770 --> 00:03:24.990 WLWV Board Room: And some of the things that Community benefits agreement could do would be required a contractor to qualify as a training agent for apprenticeship training. 20 00:03:25.500 --> 00:03:39.750 WLWV Board Room: specify percentage work hours on the contract and must be formed by apprentices or for those trades with apprenticeship programs specify requirements for a health plan that the contractor must provide an include other requirements. 21 00:03:41.100 --> 00:03:50.850 WLWV Board Room: And one of the reasons why I think this is so exciting and important to somebody like Wilson Wilson bill school district entity, like us, is. 22 00:03:51.930 --> 00:03:56.490 WLWV Board Room: You know, for example, this construction trades CTI school that we're going to be opening. 23 00:03:56.940 --> 00:04:05.370 WLWV Board Room: And I think even of the conversation we had during the special meeting on Thursday, when we passed more concrete know approved a couple more contracts. 24 00:04:05.640 --> 00:04:21.660 WLWV Board Room: And just the knowledge that we had that there's a large amount of retirement happening in the construction trades it's hard to find you know management and we talked and manage their folks to come out of the trades and on management, as I think this year on the experience. 25 00:04:23.400 --> 00:04:27.810 WLWV Board Room: And you know there's the turnover and things like that, so this is really. 26 00:04:29.130 --> 00:04:34.710 WLWV Board Room: Also, of course, development issue when we think about apprenticeship programs in supplying. 27 00:04:35.400 --> 00:04:44.670 WLWV Board Room: demand within contractors to place young people who are coming out of something like our CTE high school or other pre apprenticeship type program so. 28 00:04:45.570 --> 00:04:55.410 WLWV Board Room: that's one of the reasons why i'm really inspired by this work and why I think it's links so directly to the work school district, as well as a workforce development in general. 29 00:04:56.460 --> 00:05:08.280 WLWV Board Room: So Community benefits agreements can be a little bit complicated to understand i've been having these conversations for a while director taylor's been having these conversations, since this policy was a through. 30 00:05:08.670 --> 00:05:15.090 WLWV Board Room: And that's why we invited these guests, because there are folks who have done this work in the Community and different. 31 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:30.690 WLWV Board Room: fashion, so, but before I hand over to introduce some of our guests and bill each just speak for about 10 minutes or so about what they know about the topic we can ask them questions when they're all done and are talking amongst ourselves as well. 32 00:05:33.030 --> 00:05:34.770 WLWV Board Room: You want to add to this. 33 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:44.190 WLWV Board Room: I think this just through this whole process has been very educational for me learning about what CBS actually look like. 34 00:05:45.450 --> 00:05:51.240 WLWV Board Room: purpose of their more floor and all the different moving pieces within a CPA agreement. 35 00:05:53.040 --> 00:06:00.450 WLWV Board Room: I think, as a business owner, I can understand some of the key things here are some of the requirements that may be presented it can be. 36 00:06:03.030 --> 00:06:06.600 WLWV Board Room: I would say you're screwed in a way that will say okay well that's expensive right. 37 00:06:07.650 --> 00:06:13.410 WLWV Board Room: As the business owner we're talking about health care, benefits and things like that right expensive that stuff is. 38 00:06:14.880 --> 00:06:15.480 WLWV Board Room: and 39 00:06:16.530 --> 00:06:23.130 WLWV Board Room: But from a from a I guess a parent's standpoint, or from. 40 00:06:24.390 --> 00:06:26.670 WLWV Board Room: Keeping something that's very complex and. 41 00:06:27.690 --> 00:06:32.670 WLWV Board Room: I think about the children that are sitting in all the schools and watching it work on outside of their school. 42 00:06:33.780 --> 00:06:38.280 WLWV Board Room: And when those kids look out the window they see one group of people. 43 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:45.060 WLWV Board Room: They don't see a diverse group of people that look like looks like them when they're looking out the windows and I think that can be a problem. 44 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:53.820 WLWV Board Room: Because, then you start associating that industry or that trade with something that has been awkward for me or not something that I can do. 45 00:06:54.480 --> 00:07:01.050 WLWV Board Room: Right, and so I think that with some of these things that are in these agreements get allows for pathways. 46 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:15.210 WLWV Board Room: To bring in diversity within that industry and also allow what's being looked at through the windows to start to look a little more like what's going on inside the classrooms and you know what I think I want to drive. 47 00:07:15.990 --> 00:07:24.390 WLWV Board Room: This big tractor that I play it always played within the back of my yard, and I see these people out there, driving these trackers that'd be really cool thing that would be a dream of mine. 48 00:07:24.870 --> 00:07:34.620 WLWV Board Room: But when you don't see someone that looks like you're doing that job that doesn't really feel like a dream right, and so, for me it was interesting to see that all the work that was. 49 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:43.470 WLWV Board Room: Going on that I had no idea what was going on with the school districts within public institutions to try to actually create a pathway. 50 00:07:44.220 --> 00:07:48.960 WLWV Board Room: for children or a pathway for young adults to say you know what call it might not for me. 51 00:07:49.380 --> 00:07:56.430 WLWV Board Room: But I think I want to go this route and there's more opportunity over here i'm not going to be swayed by collegiate that i'm not going to. 52 00:07:57.000 --> 00:08:06.660 WLWV Board Room: they're going to use my hands, you know, everybody says, I have to go to school right they don't want to invest and I think that just understanding of this pathway is being created to. 53 00:08:07.170 --> 00:08:22.590 WLWV Board Room: To create the change is is pretty exciting to me in the most simplest form but i'm excited to share some of the findings or listen to some of the findings that we were able to learn, and you know get everybody else's opinion on what does it look like. 54 00:08:23.790 --> 00:08:25.110 WLWV Board Room: Within our own community so. 55 00:08:27.720 --> 00:08:32.160 WLWV Board Room: yeah, thank you for that perspective, and I agree, I agree with what you're saying. 56 00:08:32.820 --> 00:08:50.310 WLWV Board Room: And I think this is just a good opportunity for us to hand it over to some folks who are doing the work in the Community and over the years, so I start with Tijuana Hennessy and i'll just introduce you and then feel free to introduce yourself if I miss anything but. 57 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:56.310 WLWV Board Room: Tijuana Hennessy join the Pacific Northwest regional council carpenters and. 58 00:08:57.360 --> 00:09:13.410 WLWV Board Room: 2021 so a little over a year and small she's fairly new to this work of cva she's no stranger to the work of Community and she was married to a pastor Hennessy at the historic Vancouver avenue first Baptist church. 59 00:09:14.880 --> 00:09:16.230 WLWV Board Room: The Church that I grew up in. 60 00:09:19.380 --> 00:09:21.600 WLWV Board Room: college my whole atmosphere, the trick so. 61 00:09:23.220 --> 00:09:31.530 WLWV Board Room: And then they're blended family, there are five children and eight grandchildren, I think, maybe one or two at least a couple more with you this evening so. 62 00:09:31.950 --> 00:09:44.580 WLWV Board Room: Thank you for juggling all that at one also volunteers, with the portland police bureaus crisis response team and I don't know if anybody listening to this, but she also owns 200 pairs of shoes. 63 00:09:46.170 --> 00:09:53.610 WLWV Board Room: Anybody who's now okay you hold the record on that one yes all right, Miss Hennessy Please go ahead. 64 00:09:54.810 --> 00:09:58.650 Twauna Hennessee: Thank you so much chair king and director Taylor. 65 00:09:59.730 --> 00:10:04.260 Twauna Hennessee: And to you all it's a pleasure to be with here should be with you here today, just to talk a little bit. 66 00:10:05.400 --> 00:10:12.540 Twauna Hennessee: About CBS if you absolutely love my presentation, it was all me if you don't please boy. 67 00:10:16.770 --> 00:10:22.860 Twauna Hennessee: I just want to talk to you a little bit about a meaningful and powerful tool that can revitalize economic development. 68 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:48.000 Twauna Hennessee: Address job insecurity, housing insecurity educational gaps and, more specifically, excuse me economic disparity in historically invested communities or by people of color those with low income diverse workers minority and women owned businesses, so these tools are designed to help. 69 00:10:49.650 --> 00:11:02.610 Twauna Hennessee: To help in these particular areas as we get into CBS and there are again a wonderful tool, they have language in them around responsible high road contracting. 70 00:11:03.990 --> 00:11:17.760 Twauna Hennessee: And so we focus on contractors that are going to make sure that they are they're registered with believe that they are providing health care how many of you have gone to the hospital unexpectedly. 71 00:11:19.260 --> 00:11:21.000 Twauna Hennessee: And how many of you have had health care. 72 00:11:21.780 --> 00:11:31.980 Twauna Hennessee: Can you imagine what it would be like, if you did not have health care, the cost to write an angle is that when she get away from the hospital how much that bill is going to be it's going to impact you. 73 00:11:32.250 --> 00:11:43.500 Twauna Hennessee: for longer than the time that you spend in the hospital i'll guarantee you that, but this CDA put language in there to provide health care and the option to cover for family. 74 00:11:44.490 --> 00:11:55.830 Twauna Hennessee: there's no wage violations so everyone was paid a prevailing wage a livable wage and then the second part, or the next part that I want to go into is the. 75 00:11:56.820 --> 00:12:07.440 Twauna Hennessee: apprenticeship goals there's a 20% apprenticeship program outlined in the CBS and when you talk about the CTE trade program that you all are have there. 76 00:12:08.190 --> 00:12:21.600 Twauna Hennessee: This is something that we could partner with you all to utilize your the students, that you have investment to get you into a direct entry into our apprenticeship program is based on the work that that you do there. 77 00:12:22.050 --> 00:12:33.450 Twauna Hennessee: But the other thing it does is it also focuses on women and people of color historically construction trade is a white male dominated industry. 78 00:12:34.230 --> 00:12:44.070 Twauna Hennessee: it's already been said that if you're a people are aging out there retiring or or some are just passing away, whatever the situation is. 79 00:12:44.970 --> 00:12:57.000 Twauna Hennessee: People are aging out and there is a way for women and people of color to come in and you may hear me say that a lot and i'm saying that, because that is the disadvantaged population. 80 00:12:57.270 --> 00:13:10.140 Twauna Hennessee: That will focusing on it, and my role that's what I focus on women and people of color and I want to make sure as Director Taylor said that were represented in all the trades, I want to make sure that. 81 00:13:10.710 --> 00:13:17.190 Twauna Hennessee: children that are my my grandchildren's age, I have an eight year old sitting here in the in the office with me here. 82 00:13:17.520 --> 00:13:28.590 Twauna Hennessee: And I want to make sure that when she looks out the window that she see someone that looks exactly like her, and that she knows that she's able to do the job The other thing is that college is not for everyone. 83 00:13:29.430 --> 00:13:35.430 Twauna Hennessee: When someone goes through our apprenticeship program and and and I am speaking Union because I represent the Union. 84 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:41.370 Twauna Hennessee: However, there are non Union programs as well, but I want i'm focusing on Union because that's why I love it. 85 00:13:41.880 --> 00:13:48.180 Twauna Hennessee: When a Member goes through our program they're able to get out of our program four year apprenticeship. 86 00:13:48.540 --> 00:13:59.190 Twauna Hennessee: Have the equivalent of an associate's degree, they are making six figures and if they want to go back to college, I can go back and pay for college without the debt versus going to a four year college. 87 00:13:59.700 --> 00:14:09.090 Twauna Hennessee: And i'm not saying don't go to college if that's the path that someone is on wonderful that we have a tool that allows them to come in and have that apprentice. 88 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:20.070 Twauna Hennessee: apprenticeship work through that walk away with an associate's degree, as well as make six figures right, and then they can continue on in that education. 89 00:14:20.970 --> 00:14:32.220 Twauna Hennessee: So that's that's really key when we have students, that are not focused on going Polish but want to make a good living for their families, where they can create wealth for generations. 90 00:14:32.760 --> 00:14:43.350 Twauna Hennessee: To come a CPA is there's oversight over that so there's the J htc, which is a joint apprenticeship training committee committee that works. 91 00:14:44.340 --> 00:14:52.830 Twauna Hennessee: So, help the apprentice get through the program and one of the things that a CPA also does is have a. 92 00:14:53.220 --> 00:15:00.990 Twauna Hennessee: oversight committee to make sure that contractors are doing their part to make sure that unions are doing their part right. 93 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:13.440 Twauna Hennessee: One of the biggest things that we see in terms of retention on job site is harassment and discrimination and things of that nature cva also focuses on Anti harassment. 94 00:15:14.100 --> 00:15:20.700 Twauna Hennessee: and discrimination and training for everyone that goes through the program so the contract is going to go through that the. 95 00:15:21.090 --> 00:15:33.390 Twauna Hennessee: apprentice is going to go through that it's going to be ambassadors on side to make sure that that everyone is being held to a high standard and so that's another thing that is a part of that. 96 00:15:34.560 --> 00:15:51.690 Twauna Hennessee: Diversity, as far as contracting those oftentimes you will hear and you may have heard that it's not good, it costs more but that's not so we have the core employee exemptions and some of the CBS that allow for db. 97 00:15:53.250 --> 00:16:16.830 Twauna Hennessee: contractors to come in and to bring their own employees their core employees into the into a job so there's there are certain things that have been said that it's not good that it absolutely is good, and we have provisions to take care of that there's technical assistance and for training. 98 00:16:18.420 --> 00:16:29.910 Twauna Hennessee: and different things of that nature, to make sure that people are up to speed on your training finances and things of that nature and we'll see what else can I tell you recently. 99 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:39.960 Twauna Hennessee: Oh, another thing is that most of the from my experience as little as as it is from my experience and my learning and. 100 00:16:40.710 --> 00:16:52.740 Twauna Hennessee: CBS projects that have CBS come in on time and under budget, and that is that is really great when you're doing when you're doing what are we have pilot cva with the city of. 101 00:16:53.490 --> 00:17:04.140 Twauna Hennessee: portland as well as multnomah county both of those came in on time under budget and exceeded some of the goals that we're selling set forth in it currently right now we have. 102 00:17:05.700 --> 00:17:09.210 Twauna Hennessee: A CPA on Columbia, a wastewater treatment plant. 103 00:17:10.590 --> 00:17:24.030 Twauna Hennessee: These the contractor that is working, that is very intentional and what what they're doing he's exceeding the goals for apprenticeship he's exceeding the goals for women he's exceeding the goals for minority. 104 00:17:24.540 --> 00:17:38.100 Twauna Hennessee: So the cva is a wonderful tool and meaningful tool powerful tool, I cannot express it enough how powerful, it is, and it creates wealth. 105 00:17:39.330 --> 00:17:40.440 Twauna Hennessee: and job security. 106 00:17:42.750 --> 00:17:46.410 Twauna Hennessee: And i'll stop there, because I probably covered a lot of the things that. 107 00:17:47.550 --> 00:18:05.070 Twauna Hennessee: Willie was going to cover We work closely together in the trades and so he he may cover a little bit more, so all all relinquish my time and then pass it over to blow your i'll pass it back to the Chair king and let her direct. 108 00:18:07.050 --> 00:18:10.260 WLWV Board Room: Thank you so much, Miss Tennessee and i'm going to check. 109 00:18:10.260 --> 00:18:17.910 WLWV Board Room: In and I know Joe you have another meeting to go to would you like to go next door like possible. 110 00:18:20.550 --> 00:18:34.350 Joe Berney: It all depends if willie's it's verbose as he sometimes can be but i'm just kidding Willie i'm just kidding Thank you very much, I have two more meetings to go to, but why don't you go ahead and the order you have it will just see how it works out Thank you. 111 00:18:34.890 --> 00:18:50.790 WLWV Board Room: i'm gonna go ahead and introduce you to Mr meyers Willie myers has 34 years in the construction industry he's currently the Executive Secretary treasurer of the Columbia Pacific building and construction trades Council. 112 00:18:51.930 --> 00:19:02.490 WLWV Board Room: Council represents 24 construction tracks and 14 international organizations and represents more than 18,000 working men and women in the construction industry. 113 00:19:03.330 --> 00:19:14.370 WLWV Board Room: And Willie billy Meyer says negotiated the delivery agreements for several construction projects in our area, including the pdfs terminal balancing and realignment. 114 00:19:14.820 --> 00:19:33.600 WLWV Board Room: loma county courthouse aloma county health department headquarters portland water bureau projects Columbia boulevard wastewater treatment plant, the regional workforce equity agreement and several more so quite a bit of experience doing this work, Mr buyer and 14. 115 00:19:33.990 --> 00:19:44.400 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Well, thank you and I wasn't alone we negotiated those agreements to one has been with me on the last two for sure I think she was helping on the airport a little bit as well. 116 00:19:45.510 --> 00:19:47.670 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): On one of the versions of it but. 117 00:19:49.290 --> 00:19:56.490 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): i'm just gonna just kind of shore up a little bit of what Tijuana said she covered it very, very thoroughly on what CBS do. 118 00:19:57.510 --> 00:20:05.880 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): It one of the things that it does that standardized is a set of rules for delivery of a construction project for workforce and for contractors. 119 00:20:07.260 --> 00:20:14.940 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): With Labor piece embedded into it there's usually a no strike clause so that you have Labor peace throughout the year agreement as well. 120 00:20:17.370 --> 00:20:27.780 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): It increases efficiency by having coordination meetings and cooperative meetings between the general contractors and subcontractors and Labor through pre job conferences. 121 00:20:28.320 --> 00:20:38.280 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And, and has a clear clearly defined dispute resolution, so if there are any disagreements, the resolved and doesn't impact the project in any way. 122 00:20:41.010 --> 00:20:47.250 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And, as I touched on, it does provide true oversight and collaboration. 123 00:20:48.900 --> 00:20:55.500 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): To meet the owners expectations, whether it's a workforce, training and hiring policy equity goals. 124 00:20:55.830 --> 00:21:11.070 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): or or any other policies that you may have in place we work together through the Labor management central oversight committee to identify deficiencies and offer of course corrective solutions in real time we usually get the reports once a month. 125 00:21:12.090 --> 00:21:27.390 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And so we get to really review if we see a contract for falling falling behind on their expectations that you've set as a public owner, we can help guide them to correct those and then we your meet your goals by the end of the project. 126 00:21:29.730 --> 00:21:38.190 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): As you mentioned, we had had and are having great success in delivering on the public owners expectations and several. 127 00:21:39.390 --> 00:21:55.140 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Project Labor agreements and Community benefit agreements cooperative workforce agreements, the workforce activity agreements around the around the region, regardless of how you what you call them their project agreements they they help deliver on the public owners expectations. 128 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:08.250 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): While delivering the capital construction projects one thing CBS also do is they truly create career pathway opportunities, especially when partnering with a high school that has. 129 00:22:09.780 --> 00:22:13.200 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Either a magnet program or CTE. 130 00:22:14.550 --> 00:22:25.230 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): program we can help we can help program and do a value add to the student so when they graduate from your program or complete your Program. 131 00:22:25.500 --> 00:22:37.590 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): The contractors what they're looking for that's value add that gives them advanced standing entering into apprenticeship like Tijuana said, there are some programs apprenticeship programs that also offer direct entry. 132 00:22:37.890 --> 00:22:52.230 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): or direct application, as well as advanced points which give them a higher higher placement on what we call the out of work list or the the pool of eligible for the apprenticeship programs. 133 00:22:55.530 --> 00:23:06.210 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): We have several other cva is in the works, including broadway core, which is a very large development downtown portland Sorry, I have a dog that's. 134 00:23:06.810 --> 00:23:17.580 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Being a little excited here, but the the broadway corridor, which is about a 12 block development in downtown portland where the old post office used to be. 135 00:23:18.570 --> 00:23:33.450 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): We also have the bull run water filtration projects, which is a billion dollar project and we just are starting to one and I are just now starting conversations for negotiations on the delivery of the burn site bridge. 136 00:23:34.770 --> 00:23:38.250 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Which is another 800 million to a billion dollar project. 137 00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:51.510 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And with that I think wanna hit it right on the head workforce agreements of these types deliver on time on budget capital construction projects that's that's one thing we're very proud of. 138 00:23:52.620 --> 00:23:55.470 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Did here director Taylor say something about. 139 00:23:57.840 --> 00:24:01.170 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): That we all know how expensive healthcare could be. 140 00:24:01.530 --> 00:24:12.270 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): One nice thing about the work that you will all be doing on your capital construction projects is they're all prevailing wage it's already programmed into the cost of doing work. 141 00:24:12.600 --> 00:24:20.520 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): With the school districts this just ensures that they're actually providing benefits, rather than just painted as wages on the check. 142 00:24:21.210 --> 00:24:39.990 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Where the employer would then have to carry the tax load and the employee doesn't actually receive a true benefit or can can buy the benefit at the cost that that is offered through the prevailing wage rates which all have the health care retirement and training programmed into them. 143 00:24:41.010 --> 00:24:41.580 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): and 144 00:24:42.690 --> 00:24:47.100 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): I think i'm gonna stop there, and hopefully Joe didn't take up too much time for you. 145 00:24:49.860 --> 00:24:52.020 WLWV Board Room: All right, thank you for. 146 00:24:52.140 --> 00:24:54.570 WLWV Board Room: Sharing your experience there and. 147 00:24:55.530 --> 00:24:56.040 Yes. 148 00:24:57.090 --> 00:25:08.220 WLWV Board Room: Just introduce Mr Joe Bernie and one of the things I appreciate about you being here, Mr Bernie is that you you're in a similar position as a school board members and not you are. 149 00:25:08.730 --> 00:25:21.480 WLWV Board Room: Publicly elected official serving on the lane county Commission and so you have that unique lens and sometimes just by way of introduction, Joe and his wife madden live in Springfield. 150 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:31.470 WLWV Board Room: They do have three grandchildren five live in the area that's still or four live in Springfield still maybe they move I don't know. 151 00:25:32.550 --> 00:25:33.450 Joe Berney: We have six kids. 152 00:25:35.580 --> 00:25:36.810 WLWV Board Room: Oh, my goodness, you are. 153 00:25:39.180 --> 00:25:49.200 WLWV Board Room: So, and then you have a background in education to right you're like maddie taught high school for 30 years and you yourself were 10 year of high school teacher and an adjunct professor of education. 154 00:25:49.740 --> 00:25:56.190 WLWV Board Room: joe's career spans decades of entrepreneurship and leadership and this and economic development. 155 00:25:56.760 --> 00:26:03.870 WLWV Board Room: And one of my that my favorite accomplishments on the list of accomplishments accomplishments listed on the website. 156 00:26:04.230 --> 00:26:17.250 WLWV Board Room: And was that you are the founding Executive Director of the lane regional workforce quality committee which secured over $7 million in school to work and displace mill worker training dollars. 157 00:26:19.560 --> 00:26:24.330 WLWV Board Room: that's probably enough of an introduction and hand the floor over to. 158 00:26:25.500 --> 00:26:26.610 Joe Berney: Everybody hear me okay. 159 00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:28.830 WLWV Board Room: Yes, thank you. 160 00:26:30.330 --> 00:26:35.130 Joe Berney: I have a compatible but fundamentally different perspectives as two people that spoke. 161 00:26:36.270 --> 00:26:53.640 Joe Berney: First of all, I am now linn county Commissioner and I authored the legislation which is enabling groups now senate bill for 20 I hate the number, but I love the bill to be able to do to look at this, such as your school district here's how my perspectives different. 162 00:26:55.260 --> 00:27:11.190 Joe Berney: I taught high school over 30 years ago I actually was a Co author of cal state of California is first statewide dropout prevention legislation, which was anchored interestingly enough over 30 years 35 years ago in. 163 00:27:12.870 --> 00:27:20.940 Joe Berney: Equal expectations of all students, because at that time in that state students were tracked, which was a form of institutional discrimination. 164 00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:33.000 Joe Berney: And or institutional exclusion and what was then called vocational career education, so I come through that yes, workforce has been a theme in my life. 165 00:27:33.870 --> 00:27:41.760 Joe Berney: For quite a long time and, by the way, like all of you board members I served on the lane education service district school board for over a decade. 166 00:27:44.490 --> 00:27:58.110 Joe Berney: Let me just say this when we elaine can you talk about Community benefit agreements we're not talking about what portland calls a big Community benefits agreement in that portland's requires many. 167 00:27:58.560 --> 00:28:09.330 Joe Berney: constituents that have a stake in the process to be in the process, and adds a little to what otherwise what I think Tijuana and Willie were talking about which is a standard. 168 00:28:09.870 --> 00:28:19.620 Joe Berney: Building trades project Labor agreement when we formed talked about Community benefits agreements, we had to pioneer in lane county which we have done, we now have. 169 00:28:20.070 --> 00:28:32.250 Joe Berney: four projects that are bound by this we lane county not Wilson bill not portland or anyone else decided what the benefits would be and under senate bill for 20. 170 00:28:32.580 --> 00:28:45.180 Joe Berney: it's permissive you have that decision making, not everything that was discussed is always in a PL a need, always be a part of what you all decide is in the best interest of your. 171 00:28:45.750 --> 00:28:55.950 Joe Berney: of your of your contracting, I personally believe everything and appeal a should be in there and we actually added more things then then. 172 00:28:57.090 --> 00:29:10.110 Joe Berney: To honor you and we might be used to we added, for example, and I think school district should look at this, by the way in lane county lane Community colleges embrace this the gene for J school district has now embraced this. 173 00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:18.870 Joe Berney: We will have the first housing agency that embraces this and why, and the reason is very simple, if we want to teach our children. 174 00:29:19.440 --> 00:29:25.980 Joe Berney: to thrive in a livable world we also have to help create that livable world for them right now. 175 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:35.550 Joe Berney: And we come from an environment where so many young people don't have direct access to living wage jobs and. 176 00:29:36.090 --> 00:29:55.470 Joe Berney: By the way, my last business was a construction company, we did all of our projects under this type of agreement and it just lifts the tide lifts all boats it, let me tell you about lane counties agreement US can be a little different if you want, we actually won just last week. 177 00:29:56.520 --> 00:30:07.050 Joe Berney: lower the threshold that all construction projects we do has to follow these protocols from a million dollars to $500,000 number two. 178 00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:18.570 Joe Berney: We have already developed chair and board we have in the county have already developed a how to do this, we have our own forums, we have a process. 179 00:30:18.810 --> 00:30:28.830 Joe Berney: If you're bored seriously wants to engage in this, I can have the capital projects manager of lane county say you all that material, and I think it will save you an awful lot of work. 180 00:30:29.670 --> 00:30:36.510 Joe Berney: We in our area wanted to include as something that was important to us that employers. 181 00:30:36.930 --> 00:30:41.550 Joe Berney: We wanted a diverse workforce, we wanted, is one of your board members discuss. 182 00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:56.610 Joe Berney: Workers on the job at schools in this case to look a lot, like the young people are even more diverse in some instances than the populations of students at the school, and so we, as a public entity can't discriminate. 183 00:30:57.120 --> 00:31:10.650 Joe Berney: But by having a partnership as we do with our lane county building trades association, they have already built in recruitment targets into apprentice programs that give young people careers. 184 00:31:11.550 --> 00:31:20.910 Joe Berney: Targets for people of color targets for women targets for veterans and we're even looking at targets for disabled so so we're looking at that. 185 00:31:22.110 --> 00:31:35.130 Joe Berney: we're looking at a variety of things that may or may not be of interest to you, we in Lake county have decided, we would have a set aside program for business or supply contracts of under a quarter million and any of these large projects that we have. 186 00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:43.230 Joe Berney: would be set aside for women and minority contractors if they met the necessary baseline criteria. 187 00:31:44.130 --> 00:31:50.250 Joe Berney: We are trying to lift the tide for all boats, we also have energy, which to me is really important. 188 00:31:50.640 --> 00:32:01.380 Joe Berney: Energy criteria that are not part of typical pls we have energy criteria to talk about building on envelope, energy efficiency and also discuss. 189 00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:20.040 Joe Berney: A bit of renewable energy attached to every one of these projects, so my reasons for introducing what became State legislation but doing linn county first were in educators reasons and they really related to. 190 00:32:20.970 --> 00:32:37.440 Joe Berney: Expanding the opportunity structure for young people as they're looking at what kind of a world, they want to live in and what's their place in it, so that that was behind my doing this and i'd be happy to answer any questions but least you know where i'm coming from. 191 00:32:40.710 --> 00:32:50.550 WLWV Board Room: Great Thank you so much, Mr Bernie and often all of us to our myers and Miss Tennessee for laying that out, and I just going to look at. 192 00:32:51.360 --> 00:33:01.500 WLWV Board Room: On a table with me, because we have a couple options here one is that there's a sense that you want to ask questions to the people who are here who've done the work and. 193 00:33:02.580 --> 00:33:03.030 Joe Berney: keep them. 194 00:33:03.420 --> 00:33:09.360 WLWV Board Room: Here, and if we want to have a little more, you know informal conversation with this class and. 195 00:33:11.100 --> 00:33:12.930 WLWV Board Room: thank them for their time and then. 196 00:33:14.340 --> 00:33:14.550 here. 197 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:20.010 WLWV Board Room: But I do have a question on that i'd like to ask me and. 198 00:33:21.270 --> 00:33:30.060 WLWV Board Room: My personal preference would be for us to also have a discussion prior following letting them go about about their lives. 199 00:33:31.110 --> 00:33:45.510 WLWV Board Room: Just really getting popped up a little bit we've had the Rainbow imagine things of that sort, and they had interesting things to say, we first met with them, and so the interesting just to kind of share that as a Community. 200 00:33:46.740 --> 00:33:58.110 WLWV Board Room: But my question that I have in i'll ask it to William because you are in this area versus lane county anyone can take it, though. 201 00:33:58.440 --> 00:34:00.480 WLWV Board Room: Is what is the biggest complaint. 202 00:34:02.070 --> 00:34:02.400 WLWV Board Room: and 203 00:34:03.720 --> 00:34:04.500 WLWV Board Room: Production of see. 204 00:34:04.890 --> 00:34:13.620 WLWV Board Room: It wouldn't be into school districts or other public arenas what's been the biggest kind of pushback as you've introduced it. 205 00:34:15.450 --> 00:34:27.870 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): So I think one of the largest push backs is the lack of understanding about how to participate so there's an educational process that has to go along with the introduction of any. 206 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:37.110 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Community benefit agreement with the contractors, because a lot of times they're used to just kind of playing by the old school rules and. 207 00:34:37.620 --> 00:34:48.150 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): You know this This adds a different layer of expectations and delivery mechanisms that they're not necessarily used to so a lot of times you'll hear pushback. 208 00:34:48.450 --> 00:34:55.920 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Because they don't want to play by different rules, they want to play by the rules that they're used to that they've been successful so far under. 209 00:34:57.090 --> 00:35:09.210 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): that's I mean that's the biggest push back a little bit mainly come from contractors, but the contractors that understand these these agreements and how they work and how it can be equitable for everybody. 210 00:35:10.350 --> 00:35:10.980 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): I think that. 211 00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.760 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): they're starting to learn how to how to work under the system. 212 00:35:15.780 --> 00:35:16.500 Joe Berney: And I a. 213 00:35:19.470 --> 00:35:35.190 Joe Berney: Part of that lack of understanding when when we were introducing it there was only one concern that would increase the put the cost of the projects and and now that we've had for projects, all of which have come under budget that concern is then eliminated. 214 00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:38.340 Joe Berney: In order. 215 00:35:39.510 --> 00:35:42.990 WLWV Board Room: Are the contractors when they read to. 216 00:35:43.830 --> 00:35:45.690 WLWV Board Room: sign a CPA. 217 00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:55.860 WLWV Board Room: or they're okay with that are they mandated or do they have to use Union workers, I know that if i'm a private business and then say i'm anti Union. 218 00:35:57.450 --> 00:36:16.140 WLWV Board Room: And hey maybe I agree with the CPA or most of it or I don't agree with some of the has there been any pushback from a lot of these contractors in regards to this Union feel, so to speak, or do they have an option to find or use Union non union and keep you know how does that look. 219 00:36:16.500 --> 00:36:17.280 Joe Berney: Willie me I. 220 00:36:19.200 --> 00:36:24.360 Joe Berney: yeah um of our of our first three contracts, the generals on to we're not. 221 00:36:25.770 --> 00:36:30.300 Joe Berney: we're not saying people have to be union or nine you were saying we have a set of criteria. 222 00:36:30.780 --> 00:36:42.690 Joe Berney: The other thing lane county is done is is that we have pre qualified contractors on a rolling basis we have we have over 60 generals and subs now with the list growing daily. 223 00:36:42.990 --> 00:36:48.900 Joe Berney: And let me tell you something else it's occurred in linn county as a result of it, especially the full family health insurance piece. 224 00:36:49.200 --> 00:36:57.210 Joe Berney: Three generals and Wayne county now offer that and they didn't before to all of their employees, whether they whether they work on county projects or not. 225 00:36:59.430 --> 00:37:06.720 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And I would also add that a lot of times those that don't want to perform or don't want to. 226 00:37:08.430 --> 00:37:23.670 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): You know, meet the goals set by the public owner, will be the ones that are the loudest and we push them back the hardest and they will underperform every time and that's you know if you believe in the the standards and the goals that you set. 227 00:37:25.050 --> 00:37:32.010 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): You know a lot of times you'll move to contractors that actually will perform and provide those outcomes that you're looking for. 228 00:37:39.450 --> 00:37:49.980 WLWV Board Room: Mr Bernie I have a question of if you know anything about what's going on with the youth yuki forte school districts and can you speak to it, and it can you know about what's happened with them there. 229 00:37:51.420 --> 00:38:00.120 Joe Berney: I know very little about the G force a school district in Springfield um, but I do know that they approve the. 230 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:11.100 WLWV Board Room: Use of of a Community benefits agreement for one of their large schools that they're building not generally for all their projects, this is going to be the first experience with it. 231 00:38:11.100 --> 00:38:12.330 Joe Berney: Beyond that, I couldn't tell you. 232 00:38:13.860 --> 00:38:14.310 WLWV Board Room: Okay. 233 00:38:16.890 --> 00:38:18.420 WLWV Board Room: So it sounds like. 234 00:38:18.540 --> 00:38:23.520 WLWV Board Room: i'm what i'm hearing is that this is that there are. 235 00:38:24.720 --> 00:38:26.910 WLWV Board Room: You have a template that your. 236 00:38:28.020 --> 00:38:38.550 WLWV Board Room: Name county has been used so that there is a way that if if this board decides to move forward to the resolution and they could look at that and we could look at that and. 237 00:38:39.930 --> 00:38:42.390 WLWV Board Room: see what types of put into place. 238 00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:50.940 Joe Berney: Yes, I would offer that to your board if this is something in the interest of the board, I can have our capital projects manager send you the template. 239 00:38:51.330 --> 00:39:01.110 Joe Berney: send you the forums, we are using send you what we chose to include a not and why so that it would really give you a head start and assessing how you want to approach this. 240 00:39:02.610 --> 00:39:09.450 WLWV Board Room: I know you said this already, but could you just like bullet point what were some of the key features that you included. 241 00:39:10.770 --> 00:39:17.100 Joe Berney: Oh sure so living wages that is willing to want to have already identified. 242 00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:26.250 Joe Berney: taft hartley public entities have to utilize prevailing wage is that's not an issue that won't increase or decrease, whatever your costs of processes. 243 00:39:26.760 --> 00:39:37.620 Joe Berney: But we also talked about diverse workforce was a goal and how we achieve that so that's diversity with teeth it's not more lip service, we talked about. 244 00:39:39.270 --> 00:39:49.530 Joe Berney: A preference to local hiring of local contractors that hired local workers, even as it related to people that provided supplies and. 245 00:39:50.820 --> 00:39:55.260 Joe Berney: and other other things that a project would require we talked about. 246 00:39:56.820 --> 00:40:05.310 Joe Berney: Environmental pieces building envelope being as tight as it could be, while still enabling the project to pencil income within budget. 247 00:40:05.730 --> 00:40:14.640 Joe Berney: As well as the utilization of renewable energy, let me just share Those are some of the bullet points, let me just share that in my last life, where I. 248 00:40:15.210 --> 00:40:22.860 Joe Berney: Co owned a company that did this, we placed in one school district in southern California small solar arrays. 249 00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:30.600 Joe Berney: And each school and young people on their laptops they were motorized the so you could move the angle of the solar panels. 250 00:40:30.900 --> 00:40:47.730 Joe Berney: Young people could move the motors, they could watch clean energy, be produced and math classes and social science classes develop curriculum around that hands on experience that young people have, but I am straying those with a bullet points you asked for. 251 00:40:49.830 --> 00:40:57.600 WLWV Board Room: It and one question that I know comes up and I appreciate that you had a role on this senate bill for 20 which are called the policy. 252 00:40:58.590 --> 00:40:59.160 I really. 253 00:41:03.300 --> 00:41:14.220 WLWV Board Room: Do we have any questions about this policy we pass and what happens is the board does decide to move forward with something like this, and then we can't find a contractor who can fulfill the requirements. 254 00:41:14.460 --> 00:41:28.530 Joe Berney: I think any question like that the woman's name is Sean wait she's the capital projects manager for link county she will provide you all information in our county, we have to have three qualified. 255 00:41:29.310 --> 00:41:34.050 Joe Berney: generals and we have to win with with large sub contracts. 256 00:41:34.710 --> 00:41:47.040 Joe Berney: With specific trades over I mean i'm getting into the weeds for you, but with that are over $50,000, we need to have three qualified subs bidding these and that's why we keep this rolling expanding list of. 257 00:41:47.490 --> 00:41:55.140 Joe Berney: generals and subs that are absolutely willing to meet the criteria of our Community benefit priorities. 258 00:41:57.030 --> 00:41:57.450 Okay. 259 00:41:58.680 --> 00:42:04.050 WLWV Board Room: All right, thank you for volunteering Sean wait also to answer other questions that sounds like. 260 00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:07.440 WLWV Board Room: She and and. 261 00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:11.910 Joe Berney: Sean is wonderful shot is also, by the way, on the. 262 00:42:12.930 --> 00:42:26.310 Joe Berney: What is it oh dots Advisory Board, because now ODA is looking at utilizing Community those agreements so sean's that a real resource for them, and she has no choice, if I offer her, she will provide you support. 263 00:42:28.260 --> 00:42:34.500 WLWV Board Room: I just have one other question and then i'll let you all go unless Maybe someone else has a question and all the time, but. 264 00:42:35.610 --> 00:42:43.620 WLWV Board Room: A lot of the projects that we're hearing about are really big projects, I mean even like a billion dollar project, I mean what if we're just hold on stop. 265 00:42:44.700 --> 00:42:53.970 Joe Berney: yeah again ours it for every project over now over half a million dollars, when we initially pioneered this last two and a half years in linn county. 266 00:42:54.360 --> 00:43:05.880 Joe Berney: The all the projects, the projects had to be over a million we were feeling our way through so we're not doing the kinds of 800 billion billion dollar projects, I wish we were so willing gets to talk. 267 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:11.250 Joe Berney: About but we're you know our largest projects like 120 million, but the. 268 00:43:11.250 --> 00:43:12.210 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Larger project. 269 00:43:12.720 --> 00:43:16.410 Joe Berney: had to apply this to has been about 15. 270 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:37.530 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And in the portland metro area, we do have a higher threshold we just finished negotiating the regional workforce equity agreement that the threshold is any project any capital construction project that's over $5 million that covers metro. 271 00:43:38.730 --> 00:43:47.040 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): multnomah county and city portland and that's all bureaus it's a portland so any capital construction project that has funding that. 272 00:43:47.910 --> 00:44:03.270 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Public funding that is more than $5 million, the reason why we set a little bit of a higher threshold because we're talking about a huge number of projects and just the the management of the all the committee's would be a little overwhelming. 273 00:44:04.560 --> 00:44:08.250 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): We did did set a little higher threshold, but that number is going to be coming down. 274 00:44:09.330 --> 00:44:19.110 Joe Berney: Share school board, this has been such a pleasure, I apologize i'm on the Springfield economic development agency I this their executive committee, I need to go to their board meeting. 275 00:44:19.560 --> 00:44:26.520 Joe Berney: So with your indulgence, I will provide whatever support you need, and I can connect you with Sean if you're bored so desires. 276 00:44:27.060 --> 00:44:32.850 WLWV Board Room: And can I ask a quick, yes, she does she work for Oregon state and then she worked for the Department of revenue. 277 00:44:33.810 --> 00:44:44.670 Joe Berney: You know what shawn wait came to us from where the state of Oregon so My guess is you're thinking of the same person, but hell, if I know where she worked at the stake. 278 00:44:49.230 --> 00:44:59.970 WLWV Board Room: Maria Thank you so much for making time and missing everything to be here, and then I think if you all want to ask any question, I do have one Okay, thank you, Joe Thank you. 279 00:45:01.980 --> 00:45:05.130 WLWV Board Room: And I feel I hasn't asked this question because I. 280 00:45:05.700 --> 00:45:12.810 WLWV Board Room: Because it may be a totally ignorant question so that's the me just preface it with that i'm just wondering like i've been I think of like. 281 00:45:13.050 --> 00:45:23.400 WLWV Board Room: Small mom and pop sort of like what would be the mom and pop construction, where is this a hard thing for them when they don't have lots of can you just speak to that. 282 00:45:25.590 --> 00:45:33.960 WLWV Board Room: And, and how many of them is it hard for like a small mom and pop shop to qualify for this sort of thing. 283 00:45:36.540 --> 00:45:37.830 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Why do you want to take that one or. 284 00:45:39.120 --> 00:45:39.360 Twauna Hennessee: two. 285 00:45:41.130 --> 00:45:50.220 Twauna Hennessee: In our in our CD as well, let me say we partner with different organizations that well the smaller. 286 00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:58.530 Twauna Hennessee: businesses such as pvt G professional development group that will help them with. 287 00:46:00.210 --> 00:46:15.750 Twauna Hennessee: Get you know getting their focuses on financial literacy helping them with funding and insurance and things of that nature as far as in the cva we put the provision in there for the smaller businesses and. 288 00:46:17.220 --> 00:46:21.210 Twauna Hennessee: So that they aren't totally blocked from doing the work. 289 00:46:23.160 --> 00:46:23.730 Twauna Hennessee: and 290 00:46:27.030 --> 00:46:29.220 Twauna Hennessee: Technical system fully yeah i'm like. 291 00:46:29.250 --> 00:46:30.450 Twauna Hennessee: I can't I can't I know. 292 00:46:31.530 --> 00:46:35.670 Twauna Hennessee: that the technical assistance part is the 1% set aside and excuse me. 293 00:46:36.810 --> 00:46:46.260 Twauna Hennessee: After we throw so many acronyms around and speak to this stuff so much that sometimes it gets confusing, but I spoke to the technical assistance piece, that is. 294 00:46:47.370 --> 00:46:51.960 Twauna Hennessee: Set aside, in particular for those for smaller businesses. 295 00:46:54.180 --> 00:46:59.550 Twauna Hennessee: The mom and pop that wouldn't ordinarily get an opportunity to do the work on a large size project. 296 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:10.830 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): And that money could help with the record keeping whether it's certified payroll they can help with getting them established as a training agent. 297 00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:18.420 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): With any of the jt sees which has joined apprenticeship training committees sorry I should say we use a lot of acronyms. 298 00:47:19.290 --> 00:47:33.660 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): But we, and they could also help like she said what bonding and with any other thing to really truly assist those contractors into an incubator program to be bigger and better on the next project as well, so. 299 00:47:40.710 --> 00:47:41.430 WLWV Board Room: Why they're. 300 00:47:42.450 --> 00:47:48.990 WLWV Board Room: happy, but are there any questions from some of the smaller minority of division. 301 00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:57.780 WLWV Board Room: or family owned businesses around some of the criteria special like I cost of insurance and. 302 00:47:59.070 --> 00:48:11.790 WLWV Board Room: director thompson's question around how they might have operated but the criteria to be like ah, you know it's for family members and this and that and we kind of manage this, but not if we have to. 303 00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:14.490 WLWV Board Room: control these criteria. 304 00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:17.250 WLWV Board Room: i'm thinking about just the insurance. 305 00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:20.310 WLWV Board Room: Could you hear that Michelle. 306 00:48:20.970 --> 00:48:26.640 Twauna Hennessee: i'm sorry I it's going in and out I can partially here, I can partially have a question. 307 00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:37.590 WLWV Board Room: fill up a director thompson's question about maybe the family owned business or minority business women on business that maybe maybe some of them are smaller. 308 00:48:39.120 --> 00:48:44.580 WLWV Board Room: else besides of technical assistance, what if they say the criteria for health insurances. 309 00:48:46.170 --> 00:48:51.930 WLWV Board Room: To apply or family members or any of those types of situations that. 310 00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:55.920 WLWV Board Room: The CVs or. 311 00:48:56.970 --> 00:48:59.460 WLWV Board Room: She can help with besides technical assistance. 312 00:49:00.390 --> 00:49:02.250 Twauna Hennessee: And that's where the. 313 00:49:04.320 --> 00:49:11.100 Twauna Hennessee: cpt G professional Business Development Group that's where they come in and we build a lot of relationships. 314 00:49:12.120 --> 00:49:22.920 Twauna Hennessee: Be pvt je ne MAC minority contractors association all those businesses are in place to assist this the smaller business with issues such as that. 315 00:49:25.740 --> 00:49:32.730 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Just to add to that the the help with the group by have insurance to lower the premium costs as well as. 316 00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:40.740 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Via help helping them set up the plans and programs and manage the paperwork that goes along with that. 317 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:44.250 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): So that's Those are some of the services they provide. 318 00:49:53.400 --> 00:50:08.100 WLWV Board Room: Alright, when I look around the table and not seeing any other questions coming up from the group, so I think um yeah Thank you so much for being here and enjoy the rest of your evening. 319 00:50:09.420 --> 00:50:12.540 Twauna Hennessee: Thank you so much for having having us we really appreciate it. 320 00:50:13.200 --> 00:50:14.220 Willy Myers CPBCTC (he,him): Absolutely, thank you. 321 00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.370 Twauna Hennessee: And if you have any other questions um. 322 00:50:18.390 --> 00:50:18.750 Twauna Hennessee: Both. 323 00:50:20.580 --> 00:50:29.910 Twauna Hennessee: surfing and Dr Taylor have an information, so please do reach out if you have any other questions we're happy to answer them or to join you at another time. 324 00:50:32.130 --> 00:50:32.520 WLWV Board Room: yeah. 325 00:50:43.110 --> 00:50:52.050 WLWV Board Room: yeah Thank you i'm just giving them hi folks who have helped me understand this topic over the years and. 326 00:50:53.430 --> 00:51:05.730 WLWV Board Room: After Katrina printed out helped us because this policy errors to begin so yeah opportunity in a slightly less our system will calculate way. 327 00:51:06.810 --> 00:51:07.830 WLWV Board Room: See like what. 328 00:51:09.240 --> 00:51:17.910 WLWV Board Room: john thing I think my dad has come strong for us to know is how remote kind of. 329 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:20.310 WLWV Board Room: Really based. 330 00:51:21.450 --> 00:51:28.110 WLWV Board Room: On capital projects, and we trust the public through a lot of these decisions you finding contractors. 331 00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:31.980 WLWV Board Room: Managing those projects and. 332 00:51:33.390 --> 00:51:37.020 WLWV Board Room: You know, because it's driving this thing, and the last. 333 00:51:39.630 --> 00:51:48.810 WLWV Board Room: Someone showing you how to drive your baby down the road right and so i'm always interested when you do something like this is Is this something that. 334 00:51:50.220 --> 00:52:01.260 WLWV Board Room: aligns to the vision that you have that you both have capital projects, the things that you're sharing currently Is this something that fit into what we're going to digitally. 335 00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:13.410 WLWV Board Room: What don't you like about 35 minutes about where the five methods about you always want to, I want to know, like what do you see that is kind of like. 336 00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:22.290 WLWV Board Room: You know the sound of the you know that's what I want to know, because you're enjoying this. 337 00:52:23.310 --> 00:52:25.140 WLWV Board Room: Little appetizer out for them. 338 00:52:26.340 --> 00:52:37.260 WLWV Board Room: And can I add on to that to have we used firms in the have do we have experience using firms that would fall enter this that have whatever the classification. 339 00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:52.650 WLWV Board Room: Right, as this, I mean that that makes sense, on me, let me all right good have already mentally push that way, so we may have some We simply have gathered, the data okay in that fashion. 340 00:52:53.790 --> 00:52:56.910 WLWV Board Room: So my my little quick bit at the front with the. 341 00:52:58.140 --> 00:53:07.950 WLWV Board Room: You know the the need for more diverse Labor force as a golden is built noble and practical is very. 342 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:19.950 WLWV Board Room: there's all the reasons that have been discussed here that are you know, on the high minded right by those folks it's also extremely practical and Labor force is shrinking. 343 00:53:20.970 --> 00:53:27.270 WLWV Board Room: it's you know those folks retire out and we need anyone that we can get interested in this work is very important it's good thing. 344 00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:39.420 WLWV Board Room: And it's why whenever the high schools have invited me to come out and present to a class or whatever the field is that they're talking about a few times it's been an engineering architecture. 345 00:53:40.140 --> 00:53:50.430 WLWV Board Room: Just a couple weeks ago I went out was no high school, I met with about two dozen students, about half of wisdoms for female the vast majority were refusing color. 346 00:53:51.660 --> 00:53:58.680 WLWV Board Room: And just talked about construction trade opportunities, about half an hour talking and just highlighting a number of trades hate. 347 00:53:59.070 --> 00:54:10.620 WLWV Board Room: This sort of thing sounds interesting there's a professional here's the wages that you get when you journey out here's how that progression works or apprenticeship here's where the contacts are on the website. 348 00:54:11.040 --> 00:54:18.480 WLWV Board Room: those sorts things that are going out and look the can't enter the site, the whole insurance thing to figure help before we did that. 349 00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:32.940 WLWV Board Room: But going and looking at the big picture and they're saying what's what's that piece of metal up there, why are they putting this orange paint all over the building what are, what are the guys doing the pipes were the guys doing with the steel just getting to talk with the students. 350 00:54:34.200 --> 00:54:41.670 WLWV Board Room: And each one of those I generally find at least one that asks really thoughtful questions he could tell they're really engaged and for me. 351 00:54:42.210 --> 00:54:51.960 WLWV Board Room: That makes that engagement when it hopefully there's more than the quiet majority that are interested, but there's always at least one that really, really. 352 00:54:52.530 --> 00:55:10.620 WLWV Board Room: neat the way up to the front when you're doing the tour and they're asking questions like good or you know if we have one more good looking you know looking into it and exploring it, even if they don't select it that's a win so that's that's the heart of approach this conversation. 353 00:55:12.150 --> 00:55:28.050 WLWV Board Room: So i'm going to maybe trying to directly address some of our wanderings and how this unfolds, this is a new approach to contract for a public channel. 354 00:55:30.090 --> 00:55:43.230 WLWV Board Room: And I usually ask this question of every project manager that we interviewed Why do contractors, it says, why do they exist, and I think every pose that question to you both a tour. 355 00:55:44.130 --> 00:55:53.670 WLWV Board Room: They exist for one least make money that is the reason they otherwise there'll be doing something else altruistic planting trees somewhere. 356 00:55:54.630 --> 00:56:13.440 WLWV Board Room: And they've managed to make money under the model, they have, today, the bottle that they're using today they make money on we're going to change the rules, and it is going to require them to do something more than what they're doing if they're doing something more to cost more. 357 00:56:14.520 --> 00:56:26.460 WLWV Board Room: it'll just be that simple what we don't know how much that is and if there's a way to quantify it and then bring it to the board and find if it has value of the year. 358 00:56:27.180 --> 00:56:40.110 WLWV Board Room: Is a half of 1% is at 1% is it 3% more and then you can make an informed decision about whether that's that's real value that you want to invest them. 359 00:56:41.190 --> 00:56:46.920 WLWV Board Room: And so what we're trying to do now is learn what those unknowns orange was at the moment. 360 00:56:48.420 --> 00:56:58.980 WLWV Board Room: What we're doing right now is all the public entities are competing for a finite pool of apprentices today. 361 00:56:59.520 --> 00:57:07.770 WLWV Board Room: What we want to do is grow that number so we're not competing against each other i've had contractors tell me directly. 362 00:57:08.220 --> 00:57:20.130 WLWV Board Room: I have X number of minority employees, they will only work on portal projects, because I can meet their standards there and the rest of my projects don't have it. 363 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:29.880 WLWV Board Room: that's not what we want, we don't want to be pitted against each other, we want to grow, the fool and that starts at the K 12 level as well. 364 00:57:30.420 --> 00:57:42.870 WLWV Board Room: Can we entrust will we empower students and show them that this is a career path that it is comparable to some college degrees in that you can gain. 365 00:57:43.440 --> 00:57:50.220 WLWV Board Room: On not just a living wage put up a real lucrative career, this is a true career path. 366 00:57:50.820 --> 00:58:01.140 WLWV Board Room: And so it starts with all of those building blocks from K 12 investment to Union investment to contract or on endorsement. 367 00:58:01.890 --> 00:58:15.900 WLWV Board Room: and public entities, of course, provide the funding we don't have all those answers I tell you I don't have them all, yet we're learning and i'm very interested to connect with lane county they're doing it, I want to know how. 368 00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:31.290 WLWV Board Room: They ought to be able to tell us what that delta is between what they're doing today and what they changed and that would be really helpful to know, and right now we simply don't know that. 369 00:58:35.670 --> 00:58:36.930 WLWV Board Room: For me, a question is. 370 00:58:38.490 --> 00:58:43.500 WLWV Board Room: don't have another school district that's kind of started, but I understand so. 371 00:58:46.650 --> 00:58:47.220 WLWV Board Room: First. 372 00:58:50.520 --> 00:59:03.300 WLWV Board Room: And then, what what that entails nicer for safer than it sounds like you can be one project started school i'd love to see what that looks like to us. 373 00:59:03.810 --> 00:59:12.180 WLWV Board Room: Very large we're blessed smaller, but if there's something that you see as a model or samples and there's a way to tailor it. 374 00:59:12.900 --> 00:59:31.860 WLWV Board Room: To a smaller school district like ours, and it sounds like a lot of leverage to tailor their CPA don't have to do it the same way in portland does he find what works for you and what's the criteria that would work for you so that you know, whatever your school district or. 375 00:59:34.050 --> 00:59:36.180 WLWV Board Room: organization is we make it. 376 00:59:37.680 --> 00:59:39.270 WLWV Board Room: and make something like this for. 377 00:59:42.930 --> 00:59:43.620 directors. 378 00:59:44.670 --> 01:00:01.200 WLWV Board Room: um I have Christian so if we make a resolution for using the CDA Does that mean that all future contracts are only cva and my concern is like after last week's meeting. 379 01:00:02.070 --> 01:00:19.860 WLWV Board Room: there's a shortage of finding contractors that are willing to do work, and if we are only accepting on contractors that currently qualify for CPA i'll be going to find themselves not finding qualify contractors that are moving through the construction projects. 380 01:00:21.180 --> 01:00:30.840 WLWV Board Room: Or is there will be work into this, where we have a certain percentage of the construction projects will come to the CPA and then others are. 381 01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:34.920 WLWV Board Room: under construction or just regular contractors. 382 01:00:36.330 --> 01:00:40.260 WLWV Board Room: So what I understand about how this works is that. 383 01:00:41.820 --> 01:00:47.580 WLWV Board Room: We should the board, conflict resolution and write a CPA that. 384 01:00:49.230 --> 01:00:58.680 WLWV Board Room: Typically, there is an exemption, so that if no buddy is getting the project that qualifies that meets the qualifications. 385 01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:09.180 WLWV Board Room: clients, for example, willing to provide health insurance for their employees, then we can open the bidding process to. 386 01:01:09.660 --> 01:01:21.510 WLWV Board Room: Other contractors who don't meet those requirements, the first effort is to open it to contractors meet those requirements it doesn't preclude you know just mean like board with the project out. 387 01:01:22.170 --> 01:01:30.930 WLWV Board Room: or something that we can get around it and just to piggyback on that so Does that mean, it would be in place for all of our contracts. 388 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:43.680 WLWV Board Room: So we saw something that we both per contract we don't say for contract it's just simply that the resolution passes it's for all contracts going forward correct So when I know that the policy. 389 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.160 WLWV Board Room: That we passed at the end of 21. 390 01:01:49.980 --> 01:02:01.530 WLWV Board Room: The second to last paragraph says that, should the board and resolution and then designate a public different methods of communication, if it's time for the requirements. 391 01:02:02.100 --> 01:02:16.710 WLWV Board Room: And then insert the threshold, so what killed Bernie sayings that lane county started off with a million dollar threshold, so all projects that were million dollars over came came in with the. 392 01:02:17.520 --> 01:02:27.720 WLWV Board Room: benefit to prevent this one's a little past on Thursday for $250,000 you're gonna refrigeration that would not go through the CPA over. 393 01:02:29.160 --> 01:02:38.550 WLWV Board Room: And like you said they lowered it to 500,000 that would still preclude the two that were passed on Thursday and even needing to you know go through that filter so you can. 394 01:02:40.050 --> 01:02:40.710 WLWV Board Room: designate. 395 01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:44.640 WLWV Board Room: That it takes in and then. 396 01:02:45.900 --> 01:02:56.790 WLWV Board Room: The template would be that would be saving things such as you know, apprenticeship programs need to be in place, and then the one thing i've heard is that. 397 01:02:57.420 --> 01:03:05.490 WLWV Board Room: Creating the demand for apprenticeship programs is really important, because there are enough. 398 01:03:05.880 --> 01:03:13.170 WLWV Board Room: people wanted to go through you, to finish your programs and a natural capacity in this apprenticeship program she trains, the young people. 399 01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:32.460 WLWV Board Room: And the challenge often is finding contractors who will brighten the traditional programs and so it's doing something unique benefits agreement creates that demand for contractors who are willing to run into programs on TV now in there for. 400 01:03:45.090 --> 01:03:50.010 WLWV Board Room: Any other feedback that the two of you have our questions concerns. 401 01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.510 WLWV Board Room: No, I so. 402 01:03:55.830 --> 01:04:02.100 WLWV Board Room: So have known for a while they're losing journalism is not fast enough, and this will. 403 01:04:03.240 --> 01:04:06.120 WLWV Board Room: They have come to realize they need to. 404 01:04:07.620 --> 01:04:10.470 WLWV Board Room: open up the doors to a broader audience. 405 01:04:12.060 --> 01:04:15.570 WLWV Board Room: it's the greatest untapped resource, we have. 406 01:04:17.070 --> 01:04:30.720 WLWV Board Room: The underserved communities and women businesses, so the larger firms are starting to realize they there and look over the horizon, see, we need to do something, and you need to invest in us. 407 01:04:32.010 --> 01:04:37.890 WLWV Board Room: My concern is exactly the same, what about the smaller contracts, the smaller businesses. 408 01:04:38.490 --> 01:04:45.090 WLWV Board Room: This can be daunting to a small business, they are focused on trying to make a living and keep their employees working. 409 01:04:45.840 --> 01:04:51.810 WLWV Board Room: And they don't have the resources and that's what i'd really like to connect with William and. 410 01:04:52.350 --> 01:05:04.290 WLWV Board Room: Talk about is just how does, how do they help those smaller businesses, and then it doesn't even have to be the quote mom and pop it can be the the. 411 01:05:04.890 --> 01:05:14.340 WLWV Board Room: sheetrock company that can only go on for a half a million dollars that sounds like a lot that really isn't the lock it doesn't make make them a big contract. 412 01:05:15.120 --> 01:05:30.090 WLWV Board Room: But it made sure that they can still have tapped into our projects and not exclude smaller local inner typically local businesses so those are my questions and wondering your we currently use. 413 01:05:31.140 --> 01:05:50.190 WLWV Board Room: large number of small businesses or our existing contracts that we give out now for our existing projects so typically the way it will get a very large general contractor that can bond for $16 million project, but they won't subcontract to many, many, many smaller businesses. 414 01:05:51.330 --> 01:05:52.380 WLWV Board Room: And that could be. 415 01:05:53.460 --> 01:06:05.880 WLWV Board Room: Everything from the steel company that would be smaller than the general contractor, all the way down to the people to clean to defining cleaning before we take occupants there are. 416 01:06:07.170 --> 01:06:17.880 WLWV Board Room: 40 subcontractors in one more tragic and, of course, the general is, in general terms, the largest of the curve on. 417 01:06:18.870 --> 01:06:32.850 WLWV Board Room: Imports its way, all the way down to size and scale of contract so ultimately it's the general contractors responsibility to find subcontractors that can meet the standards, yes okay. 418 01:06:34.980 --> 01:06:43.830 WLWV Board Room: that's kind of question I had is like how many small mom and pop businesses are entirety it sounds like you're not hiring a general contractor. 419 01:06:46.650 --> 01:06:53.070 WLWV Board Room: yeah go ahead, oh yeah so if we're not we really don't have any direct. 420 01:06:54.420 --> 01:07:01.440 WLWV Board Room: input, or I guess influence over that general contractor cause at. 421 01:07:04.290 --> 01:07:04.710 WLWV Board Room: That. 422 01:07:06.030 --> 01:07:16.680 WLWV Board Room: point to do this is to influence change the status quo, it needs to filter for subcontractors or I agree, and it has to start with. 423 01:07:18.150 --> 01:07:25.860 WLWV Board Room: Because the bottom it doesn't reach the bottom unless it goes through the time and so if we can't pull the top will never touch the bottom. 424 01:07:26.370 --> 01:07:38.010 WLWV Board Room: was nice to process things that we have an opportunity to help the small, but when the big get their hands on that contract ultimately they make the decision and like you said it's about money. 425 01:07:38.790 --> 01:07:43.110 WLWV Board Room: And when their money is on the line they do, by any means necessary to make them. 426 01:07:43.890 --> 01:07:51.180 WLWV Board Room: And so, if that's cutting a corner or fast food something else, but we don't have any actual influence over they decided to go here, plus. 427 01:07:51.930 --> 01:08:03.150 WLWV Board Room: They have their guys well, but what this contracting that blood cells, we only have one and that's where the general factor that's our only contract all of the songs or. 428 01:08:04.290 --> 01:08:05.190 WLWV Board Room: That general tab. 429 01:08:06.210 --> 01:08:16.530 WLWV Board Room: But it does put in place requirements that force that general contractors to mandate these targets to their sometimes. 430 01:08:17.520 --> 01:08:39.090 WLWV Board Room: Because they can't be compliant in the general contractors one if he doesn't have a contract essential so that's what the CDA is all about is to make sure that the general contractor works with those craft trade subcontractors to enforce their furniture. 431 01:08:40.200 --> 01:08:42.990 WLWV Board Room: And that's what I say about the recording requirements of. 432 01:08:44.010 --> 01:09:02.340 WLWV Board Room: Good data collection, that will take time whether it's on the general contractor side or on the business side, it takes time and that takes people people take a Punch and that's when I hear that they're all on legit well, they can be on budget if you made the budget. 433 01:09:03.660 --> 01:09:12.600 WLWV Board Room: But if you didn't make the budget bear you're not going to be on budget on today's conditions, and I will use our own panto parameters, except. 434 01:09:13.500 --> 01:09:30.150 WLWV Board Room: That it was budgeted around the existing conditions today contracting methods that are in place today when you add another layer on it will cost money, and I think it's disingenuous to say that. 435 01:09:32.070 --> 01:09:39.180 WLWV Board Room: It will cost money and will either be over budget or will have to subtract something out of the project, but make it. 436 01:09:39.870 --> 01:10:02.220 WLWV Board Room: So is that prevailing wage argument that through the prevailing wage argument is to prevent always poli it's true that's not where the extensive the added expense, is in the recruitment retention and and and reporting of the requirements of this CBS. 437 01:10:03.420 --> 01:10:10.890 WLWV Board Room: You set a target, how do you know if the breach the target bless somebody has counted the beep and did they report it. 438 01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:20.430 WLWV Board Room: How do we know that they let them start somebody has to collect that data I think that's where those if I heard this correctly and I could be wrong. 439 01:10:21.240 --> 01:10:39.420 WLWV Board Room: Is that where these other because they said they have was another wrote it down, they have monitor where they do spot checks on the contractor to make sure that they are meeting the threshold that are in the contract and if they're not then there is a. 440 01:10:41.850 --> 01:10:51.390 WLWV Board Room: kind of a meeting in the say hey we're not meeting with the contract states, we need to get on track with them right, so I guess they have, from what I heard. 441 01:10:52.740 --> 01:11:01.590 WLWV Board Room: A stopgap or a check in process to be able to communicate with the contractor to be able to find out if they're reading it or not, and. 442 01:11:05.700 --> 01:11:11.010 WLWV Board Room: It certainly depends on the CDA right and and the gentleman from lane county. 443 01:11:12.090 --> 01:11:26.790 WLWV Board Room: His point is well taken these by me that, under the law is this is what we make it right it's very permissive legal term, and so we can define what those requirements are but. 444 01:11:27.960 --> 01:11:31.440 WLWV Board Room: As you know that the organization that we had talked to it. 445 01:11:32.700 --> 01:11:53.760 WLWV Board Room: Through review board members about the cto PQ organization which no one said those words tonight, so I don't know if that's still part of this or not i'm sorry see to pee to is a organise an effort to create CVs in portland metro area and under those requirements you're talking. 446 01:11:54.990 --> 01:12:13.170 WLWV Board Room: At least a couple, if not several full time position to track into the manager manage maintain data, because that time through that attack, they also call for the creation of committees that then going into that spot check in, but you can only check data sets. 447 01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:17.760 WLWV Board Room: And then you know speaking to that point on. 448 01:12:19.980 --> 01:12:23.160 WLWV Board Room: profitability and concerns you know when we have requirements. 449 01:12:24.060 --> 01:12:32.280 WLWV Board Room: You also have to decide if you're adding carrots or sticks into the contract procedure D to agreement and all the rest of the writing that i've seen so far. 450 01:12:32.790 --> 01:12:45.030 WLWV Board Room: uses sticks, so if they are failing and unable to catch up, you either just withhold their payments until such a time, so you radical you're directing them to continue working without pay. 451 01:12:45.570 --> 01:13:02.970 WLWV Board Room: Until they catch back up or you're assessing what's called related liquidated damages and they basically say for every work day that you fall short of these goals, you will have an deducted change over training contract of fill in the blank. 452 01:13:03.990 --> 01:13:11.370 WLWV Board Room: One organization said $250 the other said actually work out the math of what that pay was and then do that. 453 01:13:12.900 --> 01:13:18.390 WLWV Board Room: And you know we're very careful don't more typical place today damages it's if you. 454 01:13:20.190 --> 01:13:27.060 WLWV Board Room: are in something that allows for an extension of the contract if you're late, you can need find xml today. 455 01:13:28.140 --> 01:13:41.910 WLWV Board Room: But we and those used to be doing much more aggressively at school, setting and they become less than last week lower those dollars significantly because contractors, he said, well we'll just we'll go somewhere else. 456 01:13:42.960 --> 01:13:45.030 WLWV Board Room: And so we're playing a little bit of. 457 01:13:46.380 --> 01:13:53.760 WLWV Board Room: How it is if we're going about this, how does our CPA comfortably each of these things and. 458 01:13:54.900 --> 01:14:09.540 WLWV Board Room: You know how does, because the goal is to get those workers in the workforce earning money doing that and I think in an effort of time and a lot of thought and careful sending to this agreement before. 459 01:14:10.680 --> 01:14:21.420 WLWV Board Room: We get it right and say okay we're going to achieve the goal not scare people away, you know how can we find that place of balance, nobody wants to hear some people like. 460 01:14:23.310 --> 01:14:27.690 WLWV Board Room: Well, maybe a few but we got one bit on what that. 461 01:14:29.610 --> 01:14:33.420 WLWV Board Room: So they you know that getting back to the. 462 01:14:34.560 --> 01:14:57.540 WLWV Board Room: What I think our task is to learn more about how some some public entities implemented fails if they have a framework if they have a template of a contract and to maybe have some more in depth conversations about costs. 463 01:14:58.770 --> 01:15:06.900 WLWV Board Room: I think, despite what was said or denied individually, I think everyone would like that it costs more money. 464 01:15:07.650 --> 01:15:22.980 WLWV Board Room: To do this, then what we've done in the past, the question is how much, and if that's even definable and I think it is I don't think it's mystical you can't even throw a dart at it. 465 01:15:24.030 --> 01:15:40.650 WLWV Board Room: But if it's definable, then we can bring it before the board and you've decided that has value if that's the value that you want our public dollars this piece and that's what you give the desk and you get to tell us Okay, we want to do that. 466 01:15:42.420 --> 01:15:57.060 WLWV Board Room: But i'd be uncomfortable making any recommendations, without going on across and right now we're still in the information gathering stage it hasn't been implemented. 467 01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:09.240 WLWV Board Room: To a great deal to a wide variety of projects, yet lane county excluded because this is actually the first i've heard of lane county. 468 01:16:09.870 --> 01:16:25.710 WLWV Board Room: Going that low on that threshold lower yeah the metro area is 5 million, and you heard the rationale behind it, because it is a lot, and it is a lot of monitor and they will be monitoring, as well as the board. 469 01:16:26.790 --> 01:16:29.250 WLWV Board Room: They want to know, are we being successful. 470 01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:39.270 WLWV Board Room: And just to speak to the point about see to be to not being mentioned one of the things i've learned is that the CCP is doing a. 471 01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:53.100 WLWV Board Room: really big contracts in the portland metro area and it's quite willing to buyers and it's the most closely work with one of the benefits of the job Bernie and what he offered to keep the cta that deep that they that they're crapping on there has nothing to do with this. 472 01:16:54.210 --> 01:17:04.260 WLWV Board Room: So there are different cities, so to speak, and what I understand the model that Joe Bernie and folks and link on here to use he. 473 01:17:04.710 --> 01:17:12.360 WLWV Board Room: does have some more flexibility COPs less of those players, all the companies that are operating really a contract for. 474 01:17:13.140 --> 01:17:22.410 WLWV Board Room: necessary, so I do think that whatever we can provide us to offer a template that's been vetted by some organizations. 475 01:17:22.800 --> 01:17:30.720 WLWV Board Room: And then I would appreciate this question around like what data access or what happens with the cost and. 476 01:17:31.230 --> 01:17:42.780 WLWV Board Room: i'm wondering I don't know the answer to this and we're talking about, we want to support these emerging small businesses and existing small businesses mom and pop shops, we don't want to preclude them from operating. 477 01:17:43.500 --> 01:17:54.840 WLWV Board Room: In this you know at this level and and I guess the assumption there is that if we require them to the right health insurance to their employees and to have some sort of apprenticeship program that we would. 478 01:17:55.380 --> 01:18:08.040 WLWV Board Room: Be firing them for properties, I guess that's the assumption we're working with if we you know state, so my wondering would be at what are those nations as the general contractor onboarding 10s of million. 479 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:22.080 WLWV Board Room: dollar contract what obligation to date, perhaps have under a CPA to provide an apprenticeship program or do they just naturally put that onto the smaller subcontractor. 480 01:18:22.530 --> 01:18:36.510 WLWV Board Room: You see i'm saying they're like they're yeah one of the struggles is subcontractors for making you know it might be an 18 month for construction project but at any given time, a subcontractor might only be on the job six weeks. 481 01:18:37.980 --> 01:19:00.240 WLWV Board Room: that's their entire scope of work trey are doing landscape and they can put it all in at six weeks and wouldn't could we mandate that a general contractor provide insurance, maybe we could but it only be for six weeks since we've done it by doing besides. 482 01:19:01.890 --> 01:19:13.800 WLWV Board Room: making it difficult for counter yeah so they would need to create demand, so to speak, the general contractor to create the demand within the subcontractors providing health insurance for their employees. 483 01:19:14.220 --> 01:19:26.730 WLWV Board Room: But I pick it up, there are many immigrant families that bring a trade from whatever country they immigrated from and it might be the whole family, you know, the father and. 484 01:19:28.230 --> 01:19:34.680 WLWV Board Room: Children are out doing the work and maybe the mothers doing the office work and it's four or five of them. 485 01:19:35.100 --> 01:19:45.720 WLWV Board Room: And they're they're just contracting and I do cheap rock as an example, because there are lots of immigrant subcontractors that do that. 486 01:19:46.410 --> 01:20:08.670 WLWV Board Room: Because it's it's a trade that they knew and they could bring the air and it's absolutely in demand, but it's the only those four or five family members and actually people don't know this, but if you're a family member you're exempt from holy which you're not required as. 487 01:20:09.750 --> 01:20:17.190 WLWV Board Room: owner of the business my son works for me i'm not required to make him or to pay them only wages. 488 01:20:19.710 --> 01:20:36.720 WLWV Board Room: And just for what it's worth to since we're kind of wrestling it sounds like with a family owned business, you know not wanting to put on you criteria on them, they exclude them from this marketplace, my understanding is that a CPA can say something nice within a contract. 489 01:20:38.400 --> 01:20:53.580 WLWV Board Room: A certain percentage of apprenticeship programs to be running so it could see that the larger subcontract think the drink for the concrete or iron works well yeah they can have a friendship with the sheetrock family comes on their their phones maybe. 490 01:20:56.130 --> 01:21:09.060 WLWV Board Room: You can do that with dollar threshold switch percentage of the word for some workers more concrete than others, you have a whole building of concrete and no she. 491 01:21:10.260 --> 01:21:24.570 WLWV Board Room: or he might never would frame building and the entire thing she so you can do it by thresholds of the dollar value of the subcontractors so that's one of the things that we can explore link county how did they decide. 492 01:21:25.890 --> 01:21:29.580 WLWV Board Room: to sit down for the record industry. 493 01:21:30.690 --> 01:21:31.710 WLWV Board Room: approaches our. 494 01:21:34.230 --> 01:21:44.580 WLWV Board Room: Employers are diverse workforce and targets number two is preface to local contracts underwriters number three was energy criteria number four was the lakers. 495 01:21:44.970 --> 01:21:59.700 WLWV Board Room: Well, the living wages was one and that's captured under prevailing wage for the i'm naturally the derrick's diverse workforce, the entertainment show it's a big component, if you look back at the Republican national policy. 496 01:22:01.410 --> 01:22:03.360 WLWV Board Room: it's a big component of that. 497 01:22:05.400 --> 01:22:08.670 WLWV Board Room: Is the apprenticeship program it's an open source development issue we do. 498 01:22:09.870 --> 01:22:16.890 WLWV Board Room: Just to clarify, so if we hire we hire the contract and the contract is signed with subcontractors. 499 01:22:19.200 --> 01:22:25.740 WLWV Board Room: Excuse me, so if we hire a contractor under a CDA agreement. 500 01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:39.390 WLWV Board Room: And that requires that contract depending on who do money threshold or we do percentage of whatever that person we require all the sub contract required to follow. 501 01:22:39.900 --> 01:22:57.810 WLWV Board Room: The cta outline, we decided to correct all the subcontractors so it's not just a contract that has to follow that and the subcontractors and kind of do their own thing everybody they hire us to fall within that devil, the one to their decision making about subcontractors. 502 01:23:00.750 --> 01:23:11.250 WLWV Board Room: Okay, and potentially I potentially they could see I could do something like and i'm going to make up a number here I don't want to be half of your subcontractors tasks, all of them. 503 01:23:11.940 --> 01:23:19.770 WLWV Board Room: Are 80% of your traffic, so we can build in like some flexibility for that general contractor they can't put a sheet Rocker. 504 01:23:20.790 --> 01:23:29.010 WLWV Board Room: You know, but they are going to need to get the concrete or you know good excavators or that you know the large infrastructure people. 505 01:23:30.540 --> 01:23:34.620 WLWV Board Room: So he can make a CDA agreement, whatever he wants. 506 01:23:36.390 --> 01:23:37.380 WLWV Board Room: To sat with him. 507 01:23:39.450 --> 01:23:48.840 WLWV Board Room: So i'm thinking like he approves multiple multiple contracts as a board, you know the font Does that mean for each contract we improve. 508 01:23:50.130 --> 01:24:09.810 WLWV Board Room: we're possibly doing a different CDA agreement or do we see same going forward or all this is our seat, this is the agreement we expect all of them versus and then, if you have a problem, finding contractors, we first then that's going to be changing right. 509 01:24:10.920 --> 01:24:14.190 WLWV Board Room: Threshold so it'd be something like for capital. 510 01:24:16.050 --> 01:24:18.120 WLWV Board Room: couch so the departments, we do. 511 01:24:19.440 --> 01:24:26.670 WLWV Board Room: not have another 95 yeah so the smaller ones, but anything it's gets up to like building a school or remodeling. 512 01:24:27.750 --> 01:24:35.940 WLWV Board Room: and start to get to you know that million dollar range and over then that's when you go back and that would be the board. 513 01:24:36.480 --> 01:24:52.950 WLWV Board Room: And you know she could choose to draft a CPA Okay, because i'm curious to see what he did, because this is not one project that they're doing to others, is it because they did a monetary threshold or project. 514 01:24:54.240 --> 01:24:54.900 WLWV Board Room: threshold. 515 01:24:56.580 --> 01:24:57.240 WLWV Board Room: versus. 516 01:24:58.350 --> 01:24:59.640 WLWV Board Room: Always if you're constantly. 517 01:25:04.680 --> 01:25:07.170 WLWV Board Room: yeah and I have to let those. 518 01:25:09.090 --> 01:25:09.900 WLWV Board Room: Three and. 519 01:25:12.150 --> 01:25:15.330 WLWV Board Room: yeah they are, they have a template so. 520 01:25:16.590 --> 01:25:16.800 yeah. 521 01:25:19.170 --> 01:25:22.920 WLWV Board Room: I guess what Bernie just Center Sean week. 522 01:25:24.030 --> 01:25:24.390 WLWV Board Room: that's. 523 01:25:26.250 --> 01:25:30.090 WLWV Board Room: desktop with I think that's probably encountered spring. 524 01:25:32.790 --> 01:25:42.360 WLWV Board Room: With those schools yeah I don't know anybody there in general with agencies have a tendency to keep willing to share right. 525 01:25:43.620 --> 01:25:50.970 WLWV Board Room: A lot of the templates for how Integrated Pest Management works in state board affect the templates you get on the State website that. 526 01:25:52.260 --> 01:26:09.570 WLWV Board Room: You share out what you make right and we all do, that back and forth, you know and we've given a lot of procurement information for how I you know talk about you know procuring services or design or contractors i've given a lot of our templates away things. 527 01:26:10.980 --> 01:26:25.770 WLWV Board Room: And you know, hopefully it benefits the other organization so it's been very unusual that we heard pay such and such school districts, was the first one go do this and you've called them and they say no, you can you can. 528 01:26:28.260 --> 01:26:36.540 WLWV Board Room: Share we would hope to reach out I don't know anyone there, but I would imagine we can figure out, ironically, I met my counterpart, and I can't remember his name. 529 01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:40.650 WLWV Board Room: At our Conference last Thursday. 530 01:26:42.090 --> 01:26:51.000 WLWV Board Room: And so i'll reach out to them and see if they have a template if they do, I will share and let everybody take a look at it. 531 01:26:52.230 --> 01:27:06.600 WLWV Board Room: Just so we can all at least see somebody tried this and they will probably say and if i'm going to do another one, I might I might change this paragraph directly make a modification here. 532 01:27:07.140 --> 01:27:26.970 WLWV Board Room: First, one out you always find modification, so the improvements to make I hope they'll send it without thinking you're going to judge them on the evolution of our contracts as progressed over the last five pounds and we are where we are they don't look anything like they did. 533 01:27:29.910 --> 01:27:34.620 WLWV Board Room: So, but i'll reach out and see if they have a template on with Sean. 534 01:27:36.270 --> 01:27:40.680 WLWV Board Room: and see what they have we I have put in calls to. 535 01:27:41.760 --> 01:27:47.760 WLWV Board Room: portland public I have not gotten a response, yet, because I understand that they have. 536 01:27:49.410 --> 01:28:00.240 WLWV Board Room: At least had the conversation about see to V2 and doing their thirst project, but they have, if I understand the arrangement right. 537 01:28:01.140 --> 01:28:13.230 WLWV Board Room: They have almost subcontractors that portion of their contracting to the city of portland because they have people in place to gather the data into the report. 538 01:28:14.100 --> 01:28:27.990 WLWV Board Room: That or even for public doesn't have enough of the right, I will say enough people that they don't have people in the way place and that's one thing that our district would have to look at is getting the right people that. 539 01:28:29.520 --> 01:28:33.210 WLWV Board Room: can do this kind of data gathering and words board. 540 01:28:34.440 --> 01:28:42.300 WLWV Board Room: It doesn't do any good set targets if you don't know if you're reaching so some way, we have to be able to verify or contractors to it. 541 01:28:44.100 --> 01:28:54.300 WLWV Board Room: yeah i'm curious to know, thank you for being willing to reach out to your counterpart UK epicurious essence they're not going to compete to they did a more flexible MBA be curious to know. 542 01:28:56.700 --> 01:29:01.110 WLWV Board Room: Okay, explain to me again what's the difference between old CP two ncaa. 543 01:29:02.130 --> 01:29:20.100 WLWV Board Room: To speak up, as I understand is that the large large CPA that a lot of public entities have signed on to okay so it's CPA Community benefits agreement to see to me to be a framework Columbia construction career pathway. 544 01:29:21.360 --> 01:29:23.970 WLWV Board Room: I don't I don't know where the second Program. 545 01:29:25.350 --> 01:29:35.760 WLWV Board Room: The first three hour window, where the second P couple style, but essentially it's a framework for public entities in the greater portland metro area. 546 01:29:36.450 --> 01:29:54.900 WLWV Board Room: To try and align their CV H2 and so everybody has shared goals share invest in building a regional approach to this specific topic. 547 01:29:55.800 --> 01:30:21.510 WLWV Board Room: Around apprenticeships minority participation and own businesses and and young women getting into the craft race, so the whole thing behind see to keep to is to try and get a collective approach so everybody we're not competing against each other or working with each other. 548 01:30:22.530 --> 01:30:23.670 WLWV Board Room: On create email. 549 01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:34.020 WLWV Board Room: Yes, excellent summary about, thank you for that and creating that command inside the contracting industry to have apprenticeship programs. 550 01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:44.940 WLWV Board Room: And is the idea that they're all these different public entities that are part of this that use the ctv to our part of it, their CPA agreements are all the same. 551 01:30:45.780 --> 01:30:56.610 WLWV Board Room: thing they try and use the same the framework identifies the targets of apprenticeship participation, and if you. 552 01:30:57.330 --> 01:31:17.220 WLWV Board Room: are going to be part of the seat up to then it will identify those targets and they will be the same, and the whole idea is to drive both contracting community and Labor unions to offer broader entry into apprenticeship programs. 553 01:31:18.270 --> 01:31:33.960 WLWV Board Room: And I will have created a great example is when the CAFE is used about around nursing, there are a lot of students that want to get into nursing but there's a limited number of spots available for. 554 01:31:34.800 --> 01:31:45.720 WLWV Board Room: That whole nursing program and so there's a demand of people wanting to get in and they don't have a path to go to because the classes before. 555 01:31:46.590 --> 01:31:59.820 WLWV Board Room: it's the same most apprenticeship programs in the craft trades you'll have more people wanting to get in then they have the ability to train What it does is helps fund and drive. 556 01:32:00.930 --> 01:32:08.160 WLWV Board Room: contracting dollars toward those Labor unions to expand their apprenticeship programs can offer more. 557 01:32:08.460 --> 01:32:20.640 WLWV Board Room: slots essential because they can place them right because that bottom that comes from, they need a place them on the job site, so they have an extensive waitlist of young people are trying in this programs, they can only take in. 558 01:32:21.870 --> 01:32:22.410 WLWV Board Room: and 559 01:32:23.550 --> 01:32:39.030 WLWV Board Room: See to up to also identifies contract or journey level ratios that are lower than they have, and I use the carpenters union as an example it used to be four gentlemen one apprentice. 560 01:32:39.570 --> 01:32:47.790 WLWV Board Room: Well, they have it down I think of the carburetors it's two to one, but it might even be one to one for every tournament you'll have an apprentice. 561 01:32:48.630 --> 01:33:05.490 WLWV Board Room: It is one to one and an electrical trade, it is one to one and a plumbing trade and they have a whole formula for which trade and what that ratio, that is so that's all so where there is an added cost. 562 01:33:06.540 --> 01:33:07.620 WLWV Board Room: And to be candid. 563 01:33:08.670 --> 01:33:23.220 WLWV Board Room: When you have one to one we have 50% of the people on a job site that are apprentices they're not going to be as efficient as 100% are that are just they're just not they don't know as much to know what to do. 564 01:33:24.270 --> 01:33:29.310 WLWV Board Room: But that's the investment we're making in the future and that's What if we can. 565 01:33:30.420 --> 01:33:32.880 WLWV Board Room: quantify what that value is then better. 566 01:33:35.310 --> 01:33:42.690 WLWV Board Room: yeah certainly i'm sure more difficult to have purposes or someone has been in the training industry, you know training as far it is. 567 01:33:43.050 --> 01:33:47.460 WLWV Board Room: You know this is a big ask, which is why I think to your question might be some resistance. 568 01:33:47.730 --> 01:34:02.190 WLWV Board Room: around you know it's a big ask, and it is, it may be some costs, I mean, I would like to think the general contractor maybe we'll just cut back a little tiny bit on their profits, but you know that might be too lofty goal. 569 01:34:02.850 --> 01:34:13.650 WLWV Board Room: but either way it's an investment in workforce development and it's, in my opinion, a reasonable request that are people who are working full time how health insurance and they can go to the doctors without. 570 01:34:15.570 --> 01:34:25.620 WLWV Board Room: firing a crippling debt and so they're reasonable asks that we're making employers and I think that, on a level. 571 01:34:26.760 --> 01:34:29.700 WLWV Board Room: That allows us to turn to say what is. 572 01:34:31.830 --> 01:34:32.700 WLWV Board Room: Wrong bonnie to. 573 01:34:34.770 --> 01:34:41.010 WLWV Board Room: me when we started estimate awesome product factor in it, because. 574 01:34:42.210 --> 01:34:49.020 WLWV Board Room: today's wires to see differently about yes food costs for fun projects. 575 01:34:52.200 --> 01:35:01.950 WLWV Board Room: When they said, are on a budget they probably did that, and when they began their whole process, they probably anticipated phillies. 576 01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:06.540 WLWV Board Room: And i'll make up a number, and it will be the right number 2%. 577 01:35:07.650 --> 01:35:18.660 WLWV Board Room: And if we have a $60 million school that we're building this might be a mechanic 2% so instead of 60,000,061.2. 578 01:35:19.920 --> 01:35:28.740 WLWV Board Room: And they've already built that in how you can hold with budget you absolutely can, and I believe them when they say they're on budget. 579 01:35:30.840 --> 01:35:36.120 WLWV Board Room: But you have to anticipate that you have to know that when you're going into a project. 580 01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:51.960 WLWV Board Room: Our current bond never contemplated those it doesn't mean we couldn't do it, but I can almost say with certainty that will be reducing something to offset additional costs and that again is important decision. 581 01:35:53.610 --> 01:36:14.670 WLWV Board Room: But we once we know what that is if if we can get it to that kind of percentage 2% 1% whatever it is, then, everyone can make an informed decision and that's what I think our responsibility is is just to allow you to make an informed decision then make a decision. 582 01:36:17.280 --> 01:36:31.980 WLWV Board Room: or any other thoughts it for me, a lot of my time isn't building contracts and working and then you know you you set a contracting motion, and then you know the two players in the contract or playing by whatever rules you've made up. 583 01:36:33.270 --> 01:36:41.610 WLWV Board Room: it's just professionally interesting and energizing to me to contemplate a whole new type of contract, whether we do that or not. 584 01:36:42.300 --> 01:36:48.540 WLWV Board Room: it's very exciting to hear you know today it's been well we're pretty sure someone might be doing. 585 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:58.650 WLWV Board Room: One version of this that doesn't give me a version of a contract to look at and say okay what what are all the levers and buttons and knobs on this contract. 586 01:36:59.160 --> 01:37:10.260 WLWV Board Room: And so to here we've got a couple of organizations openly saying yes, we want you to have our templates look at it and again this gentleman from a link and his name again. 587 01:37:14.100 --> 01:37:21.000 WLWV Board Room: His hope his interest in really being deliberate saying make this work, for your organization. 588 01:37:21.870 --> 01:37:28.410 WLWV Board Room: You know and hearing and seeing some dots here in the table here that that's what gets me excited about starting to explore this. 589 01:37:29.370 --> 01:37:40.860 WLWV Board Room: Then, even the seat up to version of this, which is quite complex as we've discussed there's a lot of interesting notions in there things like. 590 01:37:41.640 --> 01:37:46.710 WLWV Board Room: Maybe you go on a some number of years program to be increasing. 591 01:37:47.310 --> 01:37:57.150 WLWV Board Room: Those requirements over time, to help everyone feel comfortable on the first one or two hey let's let's start at these percentages and have an escalation that occurs over X years. 592 01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:12.810 WLWV Board Room: And the all kinds of different things Okay, I can see how you know my switchboard That is my contract is operate here Sorry, I think the patterns very exciting to get to look at these and come to understand them. 593 01:38:14.010 --> 01:38:21.000 WLWV Board Room: If you can understand all those rules talk to the people, implemented definitely come to understand those costs with this concept likely to be. 594 01:38:21.510 --> 01:38:33.360 WLWV Board Room: And then, again, the school board is ultimately the decision maker, and if this is what we end up going forward with and it's an understanding of those rules, then okay that's that's the sandbox for planet. 595 01:38:34.860 --> 01:38:35.820 WLWV Board Room: jump over into that. 596 01:38:40.320 --> 01:38:46.380 WLWV Board Room: yeah Thank you, thank you both of you for your willingness to be curious about it and explore the topic. 597 01:38:46.860 --> 01:38:58.410 WLWV Board Room: of open mind and see how you know how it potentially could serve our young people in our Community, by creating this types of jobs that career pathways. 598 01:38:59.130 --> 01:39:11.400 WLWV Board Room: To have and really benefit the construction industry long term by creating these pathways that's really strong family type jobs are you. 599 01:39:13.530 --> 01:39:14.700 WLWV Board Room: searching and it's been. 600 01:39:15.750 --> 01:39:23.400 WLWV Board Room: sold short from so many years, I can't tell you they excited I am about I have about getting an apprenticeship programs. 601 01:39:25.200 --> 01:39:28.800 WLWV Board Room: Re energized because it is. 602 01:39:30.630 --> 01:39:34.110 WLWV Board Room: it's a career i've chosen I love it and love it. 603 01:39:35.220 --> 01:39:36.660 WLWV Board Room: it's a career piece chose. 604 01:39:37.740 --> 01:39:46.260 WLWV Board Room: 30 there's nothing more gratifying that they can't The keys and select your new car to a principled stand back and you created it. 605 01:39:46.800 --> 01:40:05.040 WLWV Board Room: it's a fulfilling career it's a career that you do make a living wage and can be successful and become your own contract there's, not a single contract or they didn't start off in the craft rates, up to and including the very largest in port. 606 01:40:06.090 --> 01:40:25.140 WLWV Board Room: The owner of that company started in the craft some craft rate and built their company, so I I can't tell you the level of excitement, I hope that this is the one that is more, are you willing to share a piece of your didn't you start again I began as a carpenter. 607 01:40:26.400 --> 01:40:28.230 WLWV Board Room: I went through four year apprenticeship. 608 01:40:29.700 --> 01:40:33.150 WLWV Board Room: And I have to tell you this is a personal story didn't tell. 609 01:40:34.110 --> 01:40:43.560 WLWV Board Room: The day I got my journey MINS card they gave me an apprentice, I was never so afraid of my whole life when I was an apprentice yesterday and now i've got one. 610 01:40:43.980 --> 01:40:59.370 WLWV Board Room: What do you mean, I have to tell this young kid what to do, I don't even know so and I began my career as starting as a carpenter and then I became a carpenter foreman project superintendent, then I moved into the public sector. 611 01:41:00.750 --> 01:41:16.500 WLWV Board Room: But it's that that will always be the foundation of my construction experience I began building buildings and I will say the lint roller coasters I build a roller coaster magic in southern California, which one colossus. 612 01:41:17.910 --> 01:41:22.290 WLWV Board Room: The One the one I did he felt more confident about. 613 01:41:24.060 --> 01:41:34.920 WLWV Board Room: 160 other car wash, I can tell you my daughter was born when we were when I was working on that so 44 years still. 614 01:41:36.570 --> 01:41:40.680 WLWV Board Room: Standing it's a modified that they've incorporated stealing. 615 01:41:41.730 --> 01:41:47.490 WLWV Board Room: Now, and while they were doing the reconstruction on it, they actually set it on fire. 616 01:41:48.690 --> 01:41:50.940 WLWV Board Room: It made the news they burned up a bunch of it. 617 01:41:51.960 --> 01:42:00.330 WLWV Board Room: Based on concert for three months, it was the longest tallest fastest wooden coaster in the world, then they don't want it, St. 618 01:42:01.110 --> 01:42:14.670 WLWV Board Room: pete it so yeah needs an apprenticeship programs by their own recording do some pretty high quality craftsmanship and it's there's controls in place to ensure that that craftsmanship is high quality so. 619 01:42:15.240 --> 01:42:21.120 WLWV Board Room: that the costs were talking about cost here, and you know that the 2% made up number. 620 01:42:21.780 --> 01:42:29.340 WLWV Board Room: You know, should that be the case that yields know a certain quality craftsmanship as well as an investment in the pipeline. 621 01:42:29.610 --> 01:42:39.060 WLWV Board Room: And built in diversity, equity and inclusion criteria into the apprenticeship programs, by the way of being estate registered apprenticeship program they have that built that. 622 01:42:39.570 --> 01:42:54.030 WLWV Board Room: And so they're doing that work in the apprenticeship programs that the between the all of course hands on experience legal we also go to school, either one one night or two nights a week for three hours, where they have. 623 01:42:56.880 --> 01:43:07.980 WLWV Board Room: instructors that are master craftsman at each period of construction that will teach you nothing thought out of us, you know. 624 01:43:08.730 --> 01:43:17.280 WLWV Board Room: Believe it or not, famous for you really well you kind of rafters cut stairs you do you do so many things with that and. 625 01:43:17.850 --> 01:43:34.080 WLWV Board Room: you'll you'll just be on framing through one period and then you will gradually get to finish work and then the last curve is actually Well done, because you have metal studs you don't have all word starts so each courage to go through each period that they. 626 01:43:35.130 --> 01:43:46.830 WLWV Board Room: complete their pay increases by a percentage part of various places garden 60% every period they get a 5% increase and it takes you four years to complete your Program. 627 01:43:47.430 --> 01:43:57.570 WLWV Board Room: And you're going to pay, while you're always get a student that you're not a current student and I don't want them to be competition. 628 01:43:58.950 --> 01:44:08.520 WLWV Board Room: Students will choose to go pursue a four year degree, because that's what they want to do there are students that just don't choose that. 629 01:44:09.600 --> 01:44:11.340 WLWV Board Room: We need to be able to offer them. 630 01:44:13.290 --> 01:44:16.770 WLWV Board Room: A career path every bit as. 631 01:44:18.270 --> 01:44:36.030 WLWV Board Room: comparable to another career path that does require very there they don't need to be a competition they are complimentary and that's The thing that I it always is like well they're not going to college or there, they are going to. 632 01:44:37.650 --> 01:44:45.270 WLWV Board Room: Not ever want to spend for college, they just gone and to give them like good craft trade that they can. 633 01:44:45.780 --> 01:45:02.550 WLWV Board Room: They can almost have an unlimited feature, what do you want, how much ambition to have learned the true star general business so excited that's why my dad kept me from any useful tools or anything I learned all my work ethic with Holland hey. 634 01:45:04.200 --> 01:45:06.720 WLWV Board Room: That all then decided I wasn't going. 635 01:45:08.040 --> 01:45:12.600 WLWV Board Room: To do that, so I don't want to be seen as being competitive. 636 01:45:13.620 --> 01:45:19.290 WLWV Board Room: Just the ratios of students to graduate high school or college, I know. 637 01:45:20.460 --> 01:45:40.170 WLWV Board Room: And, whatever that number is 3040 whatever percentage, it is and it's the remainder or not we should offer them something they can make a livable wage a child or or not yet you know that younger generations are changing careers more. 638 01:45:42.090 --> 01:45:45.030 WLWV Board Room: than our generation or pick one thing, and that was. 639 01:45:46.140 --> 01:45:54.990 WLWV Board Room: they're getting more selective their current something perseveres willing to switch to something else, so the fact that they see both experiences as open doors. 640 01:45:55.680 --> 01:46:10.320 WLWV Board Room: And not you know, a destiny forever, but keep doing this and then you get 510 years that I wanted to add management to my trade skill and go to Business School does not want to open. 641 01:46:11.820 --> 01:46:14.790 WLWV Board Room: So I think it doesn't have to be that either already. 642 01:46:16.440 --> 01:46:19.440 WLWV Board Room: It can be the beginning or third hole yeah. 643 01:46:20.910 --> 01:46:33.210 WLWV Board Room: Learn it well that's a might take away from all this day was and I just think about the way that my life man i'm okay with us being first I don't need to see how someone else did you know. 644 01:46:35.250 --> 01:46:44.580 WLWV Board Room: i'd rather remote designed to set the tone is set the pace for what everybody else follow the best i'm not a fall, so I have a hard time. 645 01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:50.490 WLWV Board Room: sitting here saying that I got to see how everyone else did so I can see how I will. 646 01:46:52.020 --> 01:46:59.700 WLWV Board Room: end so that's one i'm not saying do it breakfast That is another right there's a calculated way to be first. 647 01:47:00.720 --> 01:47:05.040 WLWV Board Room: The second thing that I take away, is that I sit here and listen to pat story. 648 01:47:05.580 --> 01:47:15.840 WLWV Board Room: And my dream would be for some little girl to be an older woman sitting in that chair telling the story that he just told about how he was able to become successful. 649 01:47:16.560 --> 01:47:25.950 WLWV Board Room: And it was through having the opportunity to get into an apprenticeship program and to then make his way into this seat, today, that is not possible right. 650 01:47:27.660 --> 01:47:28.590 WLWV Board Room: For little girls. 651 01:47:30.330 --> 01:47:37.500 WLWV Board Room: People of color right and we have the opportunity to open up that door The other thing I would say. 652 01:47:37.950 --> 01:47:45.330 WLWV Board Room: In the thing with contracts hospitals change every single year in movie allowed to provide hardware that can put into people's blogs. 653 01:47:45.900 --> 01:47:51.000 WLWV Board Room: And they will tell you well this year, he says that we're no longer bringing in first generation product. 654 01:47:51.480 --> 01:48:02.730 WLWV Board Room: But that's going to next top five Conference, it is not limited striker, it is not limited to view it is not limited cindy's i'm still being contractors and finding a way to exist and to acquire this rfp. 655 01:48:03.870 --> 01:48:10.140 WLWV Board Room: If we change the rules, they will get because it's too much money on for them not to their. 656 01:48:10.980 --> 01:48:17.760 WLWV Board Room: Right and we like to make money, especially when we're self important we run businesses, we will adapt to make sure that we get public. 657 01:48:18.720 --> 01:48:25.620 WLWV Board Room: Government public dollars that's where the money is and that's the contracts that these people right so. 658 01:48:26.280 --> 01:48:36.360 WLWV Board Room: I just look at it and say that we have a really cool opportunity to create something that fits our Community and to be a leader, not a follower. 659 01:48:36.960 --> 01:48:49.080 WLWV Board Room: And how we define what makes sense for this Community under the leadership of the both of you, and maybe we take bits and pieces and maybe we try to make something work. 660 01:48:50.910 --> 01:49:00.660 WLWV Board Room: But that's just what I what I see and then just before I start talking the does anyone know what the number one reason for bankruptcy in this country is. 661 01:49:02.340 --> 01:49:20.910 WLWV Board Room: Health care when you go to the hospital one time, and you don't have health care he changes your life with the you like it or not, one bad run someone one drunk driver one anything will change the trajectory of your family and your life because you don't have. 662 01:49:22.440 --> 01:49:26.400 WLWV Board Room: What is the second thing that burns our country right student loan debt. 663 01:49:28.650 --> 01:49:36.780 WLWV Board Room: So we've sold these kids and bill of goods tell them to go to school, they rack up 200 grand and dead and they don't have any way to repay the $70,000 dentists. 664 01:49:38.220 --> 01:49:44.040 WLWV Board Room: Doctors there burdened by the lawyers burdened by debt that's all college education. 665 01:49:44.790 --> 01:49:53.310 WLWV Board Room: So we talked about giving kids an opportunity not to be burdened by that debt to maybe live a lifestyle that's not one of these Westland homes but maybe it's a. 666 01:49:53.850 --> 01:50:05.130 WLWV Board Room: 2000 square foot ranch in a different kind of community with no been in a great family you're giving them that opportunity right to not be burdened by college that. 667 01:50:07.500 --> 01:50:11.340 WLWV Board Room: and a lack of health care, which is both people in a bankruptcy. 668 01:50:13.020 --> 01:50:24.270 WLWV Board Room: that's how I guess I think there's a way that having something like this allows us to provide a pathway to all those little boys and girls up, no matter what their colors to do something different. 669 01:50:25.350 --> 01:50:25.740 WLWV Board Room: that's what I. 670 01:50:27.510 --> 01:50:29.790 WLWV Board Room: just want to tag on the big first. 671 01:50:31.020 --> 01:50:32.880 WLWV Board Room: If somebody is already. 672 01:50:34.290 --> 01:50:46.440 WLWV Board Room: tried this what we look for legal challenges that we would want to make sure that we're covering that's where our Vegas unknown answer man i'm not an attorney. 673 01:50:47.160 --> 01:51:07.290 WLWV Board Room: and see how that they incorporated that kind of language into their Patrick that's all right we'll make up at all, however, the board gives us direction to whatever those thresholds and targets so that's the only reason we're always interested in plagiarizing somebody else and. 674 01:51:08.430 --> 01:51:18.480 WLWV Board Room: I admit it freely I played your eyes whenever I can oh if somebody is already gone down our path and figured out all the rough spots i'll. 675 01:51:19.470 --> 01:51:27.720 WLWV Board Room: use that or if we go and we look, and we see the knobs and switches on that switch where I realized that's not how we would do it. 676 01:51:28.020 --> 01:51:42.960 WLWV Board Room: It also sparks a lot of good thinking about how it my art piece or design services and those things they're not like the other ones that i've seen I just like how they did it or you know but looking at them helped guide. 677 01:51:46.830 --> 01:52:02.190 WLWV Board Room: Right, so I think probably reaching the conclusion of our conversation, and it sounds like our control next steps are to reach out to gene and see what they have what they've done okay bar. 678 01:52:03.360 --> 01:52:14.760 WLWV Board Room: And I can reach out to Sean weight from lane lane county and get their templates and send it to the rest of the board so that she can see. 679 01:52:15.780 --> 01:52:22.560 WLWV Board Room: something and then we can from there, I guess, decide like is there, another discussion that needs to happen in public. 680 01:52:24.330 --> 01:52:26.910 WLWV Board Room: At some point in the future that sound like. 681 01:52:30.870 --> 01:52:31.860 WLWV Board Room: We could move that. 682 01:52:32.880 --> 01:52:34.140 WLWV Board Room: And I know my husband. 683 01:52:35.340 --> 01:52:39.600 WLWV Board Room: works sure which does a lot of the agreements for them. 684 01:52:44.310 --> 01:52:45.420 WLWV Board Room: yeah any. 685 01:52:46.500 --> 01:53:07.170 WLWV Board Room: Any templates that we can glean information from it may not be ours, it may we wouldn't use it, maybe it's a template but to see that they will have covered things we haven't thought of yet and it's just helpful to the process if we can get those things. 686 01:53:08.490 --> 01:53:12.360 WLWV Board Room: In as part of the discussion or what so we don't get. 687 01:53:13.530 --> 01:53:27.840 WLWV Board Room: to the point where we're ready to issue and we've missed a big chunk of something and then so it's just helpful to see someone is gone down the path yeah. 688 01:53:29.700 --> 01:53:31.500 WLWV Board Room: Hopefully that's good good stuff. 689 01:53:35.760 --> 01:53:45.720 WLWV Board Room: Alright, so closing this discussion and moving forward just planning for the next day I think that's The only other thing that's on our agenda is looking at. 690 01:53:47.070 --> 01:53:47.520 WLWV Board Room: or. 691 01:53:49.080 --> 01:53:52.860 WLWV Board Room: I can, for a special meeting. 692 01:53:56.520 --> 01:53:58.980 WLWV Board Room: So just strictly scheduling right now. 693 01:54:01.350 --> 01:54:03.210 WLWV Board Room: The Board available and. 694 01:54:04.320 --> 01:54:04.980 WLWV Board Room: one. 695 01:54:07.950 --> 01:54:22.830 WLWV Board Room: The first question, I guess, would be on Wednesday, although we have a couple of board members to say it does not work well i'm going to just start with that and just check in and other board members and see what his availability to stay for social media. 696 01:54:29.400 --> 01:54:38.010 WLWV Board Room: Except from one to 300 we have a long range planning for me yeah and I think that's what I heard from one board member that that was already yeah. 697 01:54:39.150 --> 01:54:44.610 WLWV Board Room: Nice prepping for eternity yeah it could be at any time and Wednesday. 698 01:54:45.720 --> 01:54:46.800 WLWV Board Room: Day around those. 699 01:54:48.750 --> 01:54:55.530 WLWV Board Room: cta yeah this will be just basically we seem to make sure the board to be present, the two of you don't need to. 700 01:54:56.580 --> 01:54:58.680 WLWV Board Room: yeah different it'll be on a different topic that you're. 701 01:54:59.940 --> 01:55:00.540 WLWV Board Room: you're optimizing. 702 01:55:01.560 --> 01:55:02.370 WLWV Board Room: I appreciate that. 703 01:55:08.010 --> 01:55:15.780 WLWV Board Room: I just I only want out 130 30 and that I can't change everything else OK. 704 01:55:22.500 --> 01:55:22.890 WLWV Board Room: OK. 705 01:55:24.570 --> 01:55:24.900 WLWV Board Room: OK. 706 01:55:26.580 --> 01:55:27.600 WLWV Board Room: So i'm hearing. 707 01:55:35.430 --> 01:55:49.980 WLWV Board Room: I find a steady 930 to 1130. 708 01:55:54.540 --> 01:55:57.870 WLWV Board Room: Why no actually i'm pretty wide open as it's over i'm. 709 01:55:59.700 --> 01:56:00.570 WLWV Board Room: Probably. 710 01:56:03.090 --> 01:56:07.080 WLWV Board Room: I just have some contractors coming from 21 to stage three. 711 01:56:10.890 --> 01:56:11.250 WLWV Board Room: me. 712 01:56:13.020 --> 01:56:15.270 WLWV Board Room: Okay, let me check in with Jeff Wyatt. 713 01:56:17.700 --> 01:56:33.930 WLWV Board Room: And, but I also can see my houses right there, so I mean I have nothing in the morning until new, which is what we do for the contractors and then nothing after that so i'm fairly open okay with work. 714 01:56:35.670 --> 01:56:36.840 WLWV Board Room: With Wednesday. 715 01:56:38.070 --> 01:56:58.020 WLWV Board Room: morning is better also perfect yeah Okay, the for me my day is I like they are let's say from 10am to 8pm so I can do and 9am and how much time, do you think we would need to lock for this. 716 01:56:59.160 --> 01:57:03.690 WLWV Board Room: weekend hours an hour and a half to say somewhere in that range. 717 01:57:05.070 --> 01:57:07.980 WLWV Board Room: it's very time consuming. 718 01:57:11.430 --> 01:57:15.750 WLWV Board Room: Hours well just figures to me that's true yeah. 719 01:57:17.550 --> 01:57:18.480 WLWV Board Room: So. 720 01:57:19.650 --> 01:57:21.750 WLWV Board Room: I wasn't sure an hour, so you feel. 721 01:57:23.880 --> 01:57:24.510 WLWV Board Room: rushed. 722 01:57:25.950 --> 01:57:27.570 WLWV Board Room: set aside an hour and a half and. 723 01:57:28.860 --> 01:57:29.370 WLWV Board Room: That. 724 01:57:30.630 --> 01:57:34.860 WLWV Board Room: could be 30 checking a director Wyatt and. 725 01:57:36.300 --> 01:57:39.030 WLWV Board Room: You know I love you if i'm willing to show me. 726 01:57:44.370 --> 01:57:44.940 WLWV Board Room: The construction. 727 01:57:55.290 --> 01:58:12.090 WLWV Board Room: So, if something at what we're 838 3830 is good, my friend, a little later say that's correct and why it could be 30 and she's got a hard stop at 930 and. 728 01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:16.020 WLWV Board Room: So we. 729 01:58:17.310 --> 01:58:19.260 WLWV Board Room: weren't person right so Does that mean. 730 01:58:21.570 --> 01:58:37.530 WLWV Board Room: I thought that's what you said it's a person or says it I think idealism works, I think we're trying to have meetings in person, so I can be your hard stop at 930 is that she needs to be somewhere else at 930 yeah let's go to her business. 731 01:58:42.900 --> 01:58:43.650 WLWV Board Room: Where you go in. 732 01:58:52.650 --> 01:58:54.060 WLWV Board Room: i'm missing church so. 733 01:58:56.730 --> 01:59:00.690 WLWV Board Room: Small that starts at 1030 right, I can, or whatever it may. 734 01:59:03.270 --> 01:59:04.110 WLWV Board Room: Be bumped into. 735 01:59:05.580 --> 01:59:09.300 WLWV Board Room: hell yeah I think she says eight is fine, so. 736 01:59:10.650 --> 01:59:14.610 WLWV Board Room: yeah she could be on zoom So what if we just say 8am and person. 737 01:59:16.530 --> 01:59:27.510 WLWV Board Room: Sorry i'm looking at my phone i'm actively communicating with her once a day and person will have coffee on and roll a little bit of three hours over. 738 01:59:28.830 --> 01:59:31.680 WLWV Board Room: justin Can you help me out come to my class at 5:30am. 739 01:59:33.060 --> 01:59:43.110 WLWV Board Room: Totally awake by eight by 8am okay our next meeting is 8am on Wednesday, a special meeting in person here. 740 01:59:49.050 --> 01:59:53.580 WLWV Board Room: All right, I there's nothing else all during the meeting. 741 02:00:04.260 --> 02:00:05.640 WLWV Board Room: Willingness your.